TT738

very newsworthy, as insiders know that travel restrictions are going to be relaxed much sooner than previous talk of months away. Good news for pilots, although maybe not ex VA pilots.

Stickshift3000

If you studied the share price charts (as I do as a retail investor), you'd soon realise that that travel company share prices are always forward-facing and aligned with community sentiment (and COVID-19 optimism). Their share prices may be viewed as undervalued and some financial gains to be made in the short term.

No level of government has a crystal ball that will tell them the state of affairs in 1, 3 and 6 months' time. If there were significant COVID infection flare ups (I doubt it), further restrictions will be brought back in, significantly setting back the economy and travel. Why would I think this? I work in the government health sector very close to COVID policy...

Move on. No news here.

-41

No. it is news worthy - the facts reported in the article are more solid than the COVID 1984 scare mongering from the Government health sector that bought our industry to its knees.

TT738

yes with the world opening up FC & CTM will recover, probably both a bit smaller to start with.

Like the small numbers rioting in USA & this corona nonsense, it will be old news in a few weeks.

ozbiggles

Obviously Bryon Bay still has access to the good stuff.

TT738

https://www.travelmole.com/news_feature.php?c=setreg&region=2&m_id=s~Y!m_r_rn&w_id=3765 0&news_id=2043078

Published on Monday, June 15, 2020

Air bridges could be announced in 10 days (in UK with many corona cases)

The aviation industry is becoming increasingly hopeful that the Government will make an announcement on travel corridors before the quarantine is due to be reviewed on June 29.

The Telegraph has cited sources saying the Department of Transport had 'intimated' to airlines that air bridges could be announced on June 25 or 26, allowing travel from select destinations without the mandatory 14-day quarantine.

This would give airlines and travel companies a bit more time to restart their operations and salvage some business for the peak months of July and August.


A House of Commons report on the impact of the coronavirus crisis on the aviation industry, published on Saturday, has called for the UK quarantine to be abandoned.


The report, by the cross-party Transport Select Committee, says the quarantine will 'damage the recovery of the sector and the wider economy'.


It said: "We support a more targeted and nuanced border control policy that would allow people travelling from countries where the infection rate of Covid-19 is relatively low to enter the UK on a less restrictive basis."

MPs also called for the UK Government to publish the scientific evidence that is backing the quarantine, which is yet to be seen.

Ryanair said it welcomed the report's call to end the damaging measure and added: "Thousands of UK families are ignoring this useless quarantine and booking their well-deserved family holidays in July and August."

Meanwhile the pilots union BALPA said it was pleased the Transport Select Committee report highlights the lack of evidence for the 'botched' quarantine policy.

General secretary Brian Strutton said unless it was reversed very soon, it will be 'hugely damaging' for the long-term health of the industry.


Ryanair, British Airways and easyJet have begun legal action against the Government over the quarantine.


The quarantine came into force on June 8 and, according to reports, there have not yet been any fines issued.


Meanwhile France opened up its borders today, no longer requiring visitors from the UK and other European countries to demonstrate their travel to the country is essential. UK visitors are still being asked to quarantine for 14 days on arriving in France but this will not be policed.


Spain is to allow free travel for visitors from the UK and EU countries from June 21, although its border with Portugal will remain shut until July 1 on request of the Portuguese Government.


Spain is also allowing some German holidaymakers to visits its Balearic islands from today as part of a pilot scheme.

TT738

& the whole of EU/UK seems to be opening up today, with quarantine still in place, but no one is policing it.

See other post.


https://www.pprune.org/australia-new...t-enforce.html

& yet UK still has cases of corona & few deaths.

ozbiggles

Yes, because all theses countries have had so much success at managing COVID they should be held up as an example.

TT738

it just shows the mad over reaction here is over the top. Vulnerable people won't be flying anywhere.

Quarantine the vulnerable only here. The rest of the world is opening up, why aren't we ?

Can't drive gold coast to tweed but can fly all over EU & UK without having to quarantine.
& this

https://worldofaviation.com/2020/06/...paign=15062020

ozbiggles

OMG, because....
UK -42000 DEAD
Spain - 27000 DEAD
Italy - 34000 DEAD
France 30000 DEAD
USA - 115000 DEAD

World - 433,648, dead and that numbers is increasing and odds on under reported with countries getting into 2nd waves.

Australia - 102

What don’t you get here? Other than the Pacific bubble there will be no international travel without a 14 day pay for yourself quarantine stay. The numbers speak for themselves. What Australia and NZ did worked, what rational mind would think we should just chuck it away now so pilots get to fly big jets any time soon?

ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE

^^this guy wins PPRUNE today

alfaman

I agree - the trouble is, that ship sailed months ago, sadly: I believe both Italy & Spain introduced similar measures, but already too late. The 14 day quarantine here seems pretty pointless now, particularly with so many exceptions to try & rebuild the economy; it feels like window dressing, rather than science..

DanV2

Shouldn't this be posted in your other thread??

All borders to reopen.

VariablePitchP

So you think it’s right that an Air New Zealand flight to the U.K., from a country which at present has ZERO Coronavirus cases would have all its passengers quarantined subject to legal enforcement, but people who have been in contact with COVID confirmed cases get a polite request from the government to politely self isolate if they can manage it, with zero repercussions if they don’t.

It was a knee-jerk soundbite without any rational to try and bury the Cummings story.

ozbiggles

I have to agree Alfa, I’m not sure what a half baked 14 day quarantine bought in too late will achieve?

I said before there were 2 ways to deal with this.(maybe).
Shut the borders, cause massive damage to the economy, lower the death rate or
Don’t shut the borders, cause massive damage to the economy, have a massive death rare.
When I first said it there was no knowing which was right, I think we know now.

What’s the prize for a day on pprune?

Sorry I didn’t see your post VP as I was single point typing this one. I’m not sure of which sound bite you refer too. But I’d have no real problem with Kiwis going into the UK with no 14 day penalty...but they can sure have one when they get back. It also seems there are a few (very few) cases being found after a 14 day quarantine now just to chuck another known unkown into the mix.

Stardoggas

Dead people don't pay taxes.

ozbiggles

Nor do some of the ones who are alive.

Stardoggas

Let the aged die then I guess?

RubberDogPoop

Why not? Thats what "flatten the curve" was all about wasn't it? An acknowledgement that some deaths were inevitable in vulnerable communities - somewhere in there we got railroaded into "elimination", like it was an actual achievable outcome. (maybe something to do with the BS numbers out of UCol London....)

ozbiggles

Yep, so 400.000 dead with a lot more to come isn’t enough for you yet?That is a real stat.
Thank you for volunteering your oldies as tribute.

Actually past 440, 000 now Rubber, do you have a couple of spare aunties you would like to contribute?