Qantas pauses Boeing 787, Airbus A321neoLR deliveries
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Qantas pauses Boeing 787, Airbus A321neoLR deliveries
No new Airbus or Boeing jets this year, at least, says Qantas.
Have to say, I agree with this. There's no need for new jets right now. The 787s were to help replace and retire the 747s, but the 747s are done and dusted because there's just no call for them now, loads will be way down even when international travel resumes. And JQ can also get along fine as is.
https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...neo-deliveries
Have to say, I agree with this. There's no need for new jets right now. The 787s were to help replace and retire the 747s, but the 747s are done and dusted because there's just no call for them now, loads will be way down even when international travel resumes. And JQ can also get along fine as is.
https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...neo-deliveries
Probably a good time right now to convert those old 321s into Freighters ASAP.
The neo was way behind anyway was not concrete even arriving this side of Xmas.
The neo was way behind anyway was not concrete even arriving this side of Xmas.
With the amount of cargo moving worldwide and in Aus yes the 321F makes sense. Therefore it won’t happen.
Have a scroll through insta, FB, linked the amount of belly and cabin cargo getting around is insane.
No it won’t last forever but then again nor will the current old freighters, the 321F could be around for the next 20 years.
Have a scroll through insta, FB, linked the amount of belly and cabin cargo getting around is insane.
No it won’t last forever but then again nor will the current old freighters, the 321F could be around for the next 20 years.
321F will take an extra 10t. Or just over 50% more than the EFA 73s.
I have heard of minor setbacks with the original prototype which was expected as I don’t think anyone would expect smooth sailing cutting into 20+ year old French built aircraft.
The leasing companies might be a bit more flexible going forward in terms of cutting into mid 20** machines.
I would be nervous cutting into Z and Y.
I have heard of minor setbacks with the original prototype which was expected as I don’t think anyone would expect smooth sailing cutting into 20+ year old French built aircraft.
The leasing companies might be a bit more flexible going forward in terms of cutting into mid 20** machines.
I would be nervous cutting into Z and Y.
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They might get the A321F's but what happened to the training? Did any crew get through already or did it all stop? They may need JQ crews to operate them.
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Theres a lot of planes done in the passenger market, A380's and 747's are confirmed done. A330's are being withdrawn in large numbers. 777's could be going that way as well with I think it was delta announcing their retirement from their fleet last few days.
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Of course Airbus will take them back as a trade - in on A350's otherwise no one will buy Airbus.....The A380 was a Lemon from the start - over weight, slow, high fuel burn & an Airport nightmare to have a special aerobridge....
In addition to my last - that Airbus ‘order’ could now just as easily turn into a Boeing order over the next couple years...
The airlines are looking at the best way to resume flying as the borders come down and demand slowly picks up, management are now looking at which fleets (& quantity) they'll prepare for re-entry into service. Obviously the smaller, most efficient aircraft will be brought back first in the domestic operation but when international flights resume, the fuel efficient types such as the B787 & A350 stand out for long range ops with the A330 getting a look in for medium range pax/freight ops.
B777's have previously been considered quite fuel efficient but, with Delta, Air NZ & others retiring B777's permanently, that's a strong indicator that less efficient (& larger) types such as the A380 & B747 are TOAST. I wonder if Lil Napoleon ever regrets sacking his former Fleet Strategy Manager (EM) as his analysis was that the A380's should have been disposed of as quickly as possible without any more money being spent on them. If that plan had been actioned, then the huge amount of money spent on the refurbishment of the A380 upper decks (6) would not have been wasted.
The large surplus of B777's means that the new management of Virgin will not get much money for the four B773's that are owned by the airline, especially with the small freight doors.
My personal view is that the US, UK and a number of other countries have done such a poor job of managing the Virus that International flying will be very slow recovering with minimal international demand through the rest of 2020 - airlines will have to focus on domestic & neighbouring international destinations to restore their base market.
We have a long way to go yet.
B777's have previously been considered quite fuel efficient but, with Delta, Air NZ & others retiring B777's permanently, that's a strong indicator that less efficient (& larger) types such as the A380 & B747 are TOAST. I wonder if Lil Napoleon ever regrets sacking his former Fleet Strategy Manager (EM) as his analysis was that the A380's should have been disposed of as quickly as possible without any more money being spent on them. If that plan had been actioned, then the huge amount of money spent on the refurbishment of the A380 upper decks (6) would not have been wasted.
The large surplus of B777's means that the new management of Virgin will not get much money for the four B773's that are owned by the airline, especially with the small freight doors.
My personal view is that the US, UK and a number of other countries have done such a poor job of managing the Virus that International flying will be very slow recovering with minimal international demand through the rest of 2020 - airlines will have to focus on domestic & neighbouring international destinations to restore their base market.
We have a long way to go yet.
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The Triples that are being mainly being retired etc are the -200ER/LR models it seems. -300ER is still the weapon pax and most certainly freight wise.
350/777 was always going to be the future 2030 and beyond and that does not appear to be changing.
Virgin’s debt is so high, a couple hundred mill loss on cheaply sold 777s, you won’t even know. It’s chicken feed. Blame past management and move on.
350/777 was always going to be the future 2030 and beyond and that does not appear to be changing.
Virgin’s debt is so high, a couple hundred mill loss on cheaply sold 777s, you won’t even know. It’s chicken feed. Blame past management and move on.
How much did they pay someone for a that? There is already about a dozen different versions of it around the joint. The lowercase versions are the ****boxes. As the font gets bigger they get newer. Consultants make a motza out of livery decision making here.
