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Qantas Taken To Court.

Old 18th May 2020, 06:51
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Originally Posted by ampclamp View Post
There's 2 guys there I used to work with that have terminal illnesses. They must be gutted.
If they have terminal illnesses then they wouldn't have been on sick leave. They would have been medically terminated and have been able to claim through loss of license / loss of income policies.
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Old 18th May 2020, 21:01
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They're engineers not pilots. 30 to 40 plus years of service and now unable to access sick leave.
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Old 19th May 2020, 02:03
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Was that a frontal lobotomy....or a bottle in front of me.....

(Couldn't help it...the devil made me do it....)
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Old 19th May 2020, 04:06
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The judge's underlying reasoning is that sick leave is actually a form of income protection and since there is no income to protect you are not entitled to sick leave. Section 524/25 of the Fair Work Act is not being taken on face value which I am guessing is what the Unions were hoping for. There seems to be alot of interpretation of the 'intent' of what is written in the law.

In the context of the present case, it is respectfully concluded that the proper construction and application of ss 524 and 525 mirror the object and purpose of stand down provisions as summarised by Morling J in Townsend v General Motors-Holden’s Ltd(1983) 4 IR 358.Contrary to the submissions advanced on behalf of the Unions, to so construe ss 524 and 525 is not the imposition upon these terms of a “judicially constructed policy” but rather a construction of these provisions by reference to their terms as discerned from the legislative context out of which these provisions emerged.
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Old 19th May 2020, 06:51
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I wonder if there is a case for someone on long term sick on fleets that are actually doing some flying. As the flying rotates through, you’d expect that even someone who had been on SL would receive a notice that it’s their turn to be stood up. Would it be discrimination if they weren’t?

So if someone junior to you in rank and base has been stood up to fly then I would think that someone on SL should be able to avail themselves of at least one month’s SL- or whatever time frame is being offered to stood up crew.
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Old 19th May 2020, 11:10
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You must be so proud to work for such an enlightened employer. 40 years in the workforce, give and take but this is a whole new level of bastardry.
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Old 19th May 2020, 21:53
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Originally Posted by Bodie1 View Post
You must be so proud to work for such an enlightened employer. 40 years in the workforce, give and take but this is a whole new level of bastardry.
Would you expect anything else!!
What you are reading here is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what goes on every other day.
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