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Qantas stand down 20,000 employees till end of May

Old 19th Mar 2020, 19:13
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Originally Posted by SOPS View Post
It’s just occurred to me. The guru GT seems to have been very quiet on the Qantas layoffs .
He’s definitely featured in a few Perth news segments lately
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 19:37
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Originally Posted by Buster Hyman View Post
Yes, thanks for that.

I'll see your "MSN" source & raise you the Coles Careers site, which is listing 768 jobs just now...Nationwide.

https://search.colescareers.com.au/cw/en/listing/
Even Coles themselves are saying 5,000 new team members. (Casuals!!)
https://www.colesgroup.com.au/media-...-boost-service

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Old 19th Mar 2020, 20:31
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
"we can start to rebuild the industries that made Australia great"

Name two.............
Sheep and Holden?
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 20:33
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 21:15
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Meanwhile in todays AustralianQantas chief executive Alan Joyce has warned Scott Morrison not to nationalise airline competitor Virgin Australia, saying he cannot pick winners and losers.

“That would be completely unfair. We would be competing against the federal government,” Mr Joyce told Sky News on Friday morning.

“It has to treat the aviation sector the exactly same.”

and

Air NZ is being lent $900 million and

As a condition of the loan, Air New Zealand cancelled an $NZ124 million interim dividend payment to shareholders. It will also not pay dividends while the loan facility is in place.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...73787b68e7e8be
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 21:26
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I noticed Qantas has deferred a $210 dividend till Sept. I know it's been declared, but surely this can be cancelled if 20,000 staff are going to be LWOP?
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 21:31
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Originally Posted by SOPS View Post
The guru GT seems to have been very quiet on the Qantas layoffs .
Chairman's lounges are closing, no cash, no comment
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 21:33
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Originally Posted by What The View Post
Opinion piece.
Amazing that Joyce’s last act after stealing $100 million from the company is to bring it to its knees in its Centenary Year.
Imagine if the money spent on share buybacks to inflate the share price to protect Executive wealth had been used to retire debt, buy aeroplanes and save for a rainy day.
This QANTAS executive will go down in history as the most corrupt, inept and narcissistic group in the history of the airline. They killed Ansett. Now QANTAS.
After the employees save the airline through their burning of leave and entitlements there HAS to be a clean out of the Board and Exec.
About time they were brought to account.
The current QF Management did not kill AN. Joyce was a non exec member of the company and so too were others who joined QF after the collapse. Look no further than the two main shareholders following the loss of control by Ansett himself. Both used AN as a cash cow, that was the fundamental reason for it’s eventual collapse. That reason then aided by poor management
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 21:53
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So we have wiped put our airline industry, decimated our economy......for 6 deaths. By that measure shouldn't we ban cars immediately as we frequently have more than 6 fatalities on the roads in a single day.

Should we not close our borders permanently to keep hiv/aids out?Global HIV statistics
  • 24.5 million [21.6 million–25.5 million] people were accessing antiretroviral therapy (end ofJune 2019).
  • 37.9 million [32.7 million–44.0 million] people globally were living with HIV (end 2018).
  • 1.7 million [1.4 million–2.3 million] people became newly infected with HIV (end 2018).
  • 770 000 [570 000–1.1 million] people died from AIDS-related illnesses (end 2018).
  • 74.9 million [58.3 million–98.1 million] people have become infected with HIV since the start of the epidemic (end 2018).
  • 32.0 million [23.6 million–43.8 million] people have died from AIDS-related illnesses since the start of the epidemic (end 2018).
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 22:13
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Originally Posted by Ozgrade3 View Post
So we have wiped put our airline industry, decimated our economy......for 6 deaths. By that measure shouldn't we ban cars immediately as we frequently have more than 6 fatalities on the roads in a single day.

Should we not close our borders permanently to keep hiv/aids out?Global HIV statistics
  • 24.5 million [21.6 million–25.5 million] people were accessing antiretroviral therapy (end ofJune 2019).
  • 37.9 million [32.7 million–44.0 million] people globally were living with HIV (end 2018).
  • 1.7 million [1.4 million–2.3 million] people became newly infected with HIV (end 2018).
  • 770 000 [570 000–1.1 million] people died from AIDS-related illnesses (end 2018).
  • 74.9 million [58.3 million–98.1 million] people have become infected with HIV since the start of the epidemic (end 2018).
  • 32.0 million [23.6 million–43.8 million] people have died from AIDS-related illnesses since the start of the epidemic (end 2018).
Don't get me started Oz! I agree! This whole mess is due panic and hysteria originally stirred up by the grubby media! The venerable & weak need protecting for sure but NOT at the cost of our economy which is now decimated! What's the point in having healthy people when they are unable to sustain life anyway! We sure do live in a fckued up society!
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 22:16
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Originally Posted by Bad Adventures View Post
That’s it for the remaining 747’s. They’ll never fly again.
yes agree with this,why would you put them onto storage & then fly them again considering they were all being disposed of later this year.
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 23:08
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You will fly what you can keep airworthy. That might not be much thanks to outsourcing.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 00:33
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Originally Posted by What The View Post
Opinion piece.
Amazing that Joyce’s last act after stealing $100 million from the company is to bring it to its knees in its Centenary Year.
Imagine if the money spent on share buybacks to inflate the share price to protect Executive wealth had been used to retire debt, buy aeroplanes and save for a rainy day.
This QANTAS executive will go down in history as the most corrupt, inept and narcissistic group in the history of the airline. They killed Ansett. Now QANTAS.
After the employees save the airline through their burning of leave and entitlements there HAS to be a clean out of the Board and Exec.
About time they were brought to account.
What a........

"Imagine if the money spent on share buybacks ....had been used to ....buy aeroplanes"

Fat lot of good that would do right now when aircraft are grounded.....Think before you type!!!

Those funds were being returned to shareholders - if they had not been used to buyback shares they would have been used to pay dividends - either way the cash leaves the company. QF had a target optimal debt level - any surplus funds are returned to shareholders. It turns out that QF debt level had dropped well below its targetted debt level - so it is in better shape than it otherwise would be.

Finally - employees are not saving the company by burning all their leave and entitlements - the company still has to pay out the cash for those. What employees are doing is SAVING THEIR JOBS. Because the alternative is to make the employees redundant or send them home on LWOP.

You know nothing "What The" !!!!

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Old 20th Mar 2020, 00:43
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Interesting comparison HIV and Covid-19. Contagion a touch different..

All the media’s fault, I think not.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 00:43
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Dear Camel Angel,
In response to your diatribe.
You missed the save for a rainy day bit.
The employees ARE the company you shiny panted dropkick.
YOU KNOW NOTHING OTHER THAN WHAT YOU ARE TOLD BY DEAR LEADER.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 01:17
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3 x qantas maggots being ferried from melb to Avalon today.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 01:19
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Originally Posted by What The View Post
Dear Camel Angel,
In response to your diatribe.
You missed the save for a rainy day bit.
The employees ARE the company you shiny panted dropkick.
YOU KNOW NOTHING OTHER THAN WHAT YOU ARE TOLD BY DEAR LEADER.
Ah ok, so lets apply the same standards to you.

So you have been busily saving for a rainy day and must have put all your income into retiring your debt. So you should sail through this situation comfortably. Given you believe you are the company and you have been saving for a rainy day, we can expect you to put your hand in your own pocket and put some money back into your company.

Given this fantastic situation you are in. you get my vote to be our LEADER.

Aside from the above rubbish, best wishes to everyone to get through this terrible situation.

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Old 20th Mar 2020, 01:40
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I am glad you edited that.
The first draft was terrible.

I will be putting money into my company. It is called my family.

Thank you for your kind wishes and it didn’t have to be this bad if those running the show weren’t so in it for themselves.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 01:41
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Originally Posted by Ozgrade3 View Post
So we have wiped put our airline industry, decimated our economy......for 6 deaths. By that measure shouldn't we ban cars immediately as we frequently have more than 6 fatalities on the roads in a single day.

Should we not close our borders permanently to keep hiv/aids out?Global HIV statistics
  • 24.5 million [21.6 million–25.5 million] people were accessing antiretroviral therapy (end ofJune 2019).
  • 37.9 million [32.7 million–44.0 million] people globally were living with HIV (end 2018).
  • 1.7 million [1.4 million–2.3 million] people became newly infected with HIV (end 2018).
  • 770 000 [570 000–1.1 million] people died from AIDS-related illnesses (end 2018).
  • 74.9 million [58.3 million–98.1 million] people have become infected with HIV since the start of the epidemic (end 2018).
  • 32.0 million [23.6 million–43.8 million] people have died from AIDS-related illnesses since the start of the epidemic (end 2018).
Two questions:
1. What is 3% of 25m people in Australia?
2. What is 3% of 7.7b people globally?
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 01:44
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On the Easter weekend, approximately 25 people are going to die on the roads. We know this. It happens every Easter Long Weekend. We must preserve all life, at any cost. Therefore I demand that during this time, use of any road for driving of any wheeled vehicle (including bicycles) be prohibited. Even walking across a road should be outlawed and made a punishable offense. It will be mandatory to sit on your couch and not move. Anyone caught outside their house should be immediately arrested and taken to the nearest police cell for their own safety and remain there for 2 weeks. If that sounds like a silly idea, we have decimated our economy and vaporised hundreds of thousands of jobs,............ for 6 deaths. Should not a possible 25 deaths in 4 days, that we can accurately predict, trigger far more draconian measures?????
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