Jetstar Captains Salary
Jetstar Captains Salary
TV report today about possible industrial action at Jetstar, aircrew and ground staff. Newsreader mentioned in a rather sneering tone that JQ Captains were paid $300k plus while pax faced potential major inconvenience over the Christmas season. Sounded very much like the media campaign against the 89' ers on behalf of airline management /government.
I don't know what the salaries are but hope JQ pilots and their union are ready for the media pile on.
I don't know what the salaries are but hope JQ pilots and their union are ready for the media pile on.
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Typical of the lies being told by JQ management. 305k for 75 hours a month isn't even remotely close to what the average Captain at JQ is paid. You're not even in basic overtime at that figure. Base salary is 200k. Throw in super and some highline etc, and maybe 230k. To make 300 you have to smash overtime, and as many work day off payments as you can find.
If JQ offered us 305k for 75 hours a month stick time, the EBA would be signed tomorrow.
If JQ offered us 305k for 75 hours a month stick time, the EBA would be signed tomorrow.
Even if it’s $500 000 who cares?
Anyone can feel free to do what we’ve done and get their own ATPL + experience before applying for the position. Trouble is it takes aptitude, motivation, passion, sacrifice, money and time.
Anyone can feel free to do what we’ve done and get their own ATPL + experience before applying for the position. Trouble is it takes aptitude, motivation, passion, sacrifice, money and time.
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If JQ offered us 305k for 75 hours a month stick time, the EBA would be signed tomorrow.
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Friday 6 Dec 2019
To be attributed to Jetstar Group CEO, Gareth Evans:
Our captains earn on average over $300,000 a year and we are offering a three per cent annual increase.
How is the CEO permitted to tell such absolute lies with no consequences?
To be attributed to Jetstar Group CEO, Gareth Evans:
Our captains earn on average over $300,000 a year and we are offering a three per cent annual increase.
How is the CEO permitted to tell such absolute lies with no consequences?
Why? What's the relevance? And wouldn't the wartime risk ( MEA theatre ) in their role be about as much as an EK pilot ?
One of my first captains was an ex-SAC tanker captain flying refuelling tracks near the Arctic circle during the Cold War. He was 23. The screw-ups tolerated wouldn't be accepted in a litigated civilian world. And didn't the RAAF go trawling for some of their now highly experienced ex-pilots on civvy street to give a few tips on how to land the 330?
Just lay off the pointless comparisons. We all take our hats off to those serving. They aren't mercenaries and perhaps in some circumstances, they aren't as experienced or anywhere near wiser than their civilian counterparts in similar equipment.
Good luck to Jetstar pilots!
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Here's an idea - let's say that the Irish guy was paid a reasonable wage - say $500,000 per year or over the ten years he has been the boss $5,000,000 (not bad). That would mean that he would have $87,000,000 of the $92,000,000 he has been paid that he could have shared with the staff. In Qantas alone with lets say 30,000 staff would be $2700 per staff member without changing anything but one person's pure greed. - Just saying.
I am not permitted to post URL's apparently but if you search SMH Oct 20 2019 you will see confirmation of the above figures.
I am not permitted to post URL's apparently but if you search SMH Oct 20 2019 you will see confirmation of the above figures.
On reading into the detail, the 300k figure was average total earnings of a Captain in the group. Superannuation, average overtime, average working on a day off payments were all included;
in which case it’s likely correct.
in which case it’s likely correct.
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They are playing the man, not the ball.
Same way Joyce answers complex questions - he immediately picks on one piece of minutiae and expands on the theme until another question comes up.
The simple answer to the question is that like Joyce not being prepared to do the job for under $24,000,000pa, pilots don’t see the considerable health and life challenges as being worth $300k anymore.
Same way Joyce answers complex questions - he immediately picks on one piece of minutiae and expands on the theme until another question comes up.
The simple answer to the question is that like Joyce not being prepared to do the job for under $24,000,000pa, pilots don’t see the considerable health and life challenges as being worth $300k anymore.
And that’s without the likely exaggeration to arrive at the $300k figure!
Try this: pick a ‘suitable’ roster and send a journo along for the ride making sure they are awake when you are and studying when you are. You’d get a decent story in a month I suspect...
Try this: pick a ‘suitable’ roster and send a journo along for the ride making sure they are awake when you are and studying when you are. You’d get a decent story in a month I suspect...
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Jetstar Responds To Potential Union Action
JETSTAR RESPONDS TO POTENTIAL UNION ACTIONTo be attributed to Jetstar Group CEO, Gareth Evans:
It is deeply disappointing that the Australian Federation of Air Pilots (AFAP) is threatening to disrupt the holiday plans of tens of thousands of Australians at the busiest travel time of the year.
The AFAP is demanding the equivalent of a 15 per cent pay increase in the first year.
The union’s demands would put significant pressure on the low fares our customers rely on and force us to review our investment in new aircraft, new technology and new destinations.
Our captains earn on average over $300,000 a year and we are offering a three per cent annual increase.
This is 40 per cent above Australia’s annual wage growth and consistent with our position across the Qantas and Jetstar Groups.
We remain committed to reaching a new agreement to support the great work our pilots do every day, but not any cost.
Strong arm tactics from the AFAP will not change our position on this.
We will do everything we can to protect the travel plans of our customers and minimise the disruption to their journeys.
However, customers may face delays and cancelled flights if the union choose to take industrial action.
With less than 20 days until Christmas, we say to the union: come to the table with a reasonable offer that is fair for pilots and which also ensures the future of low fares travel for Australians. Do not put the holiday plans of tens of thousands of Australians in doubt.
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"Do not put the holiday plans of tens of thousands of Australians in doubt."
Translates roughly to "Do not put the record executive bonuses in doubt". But we can't say that, so we'll inflate pilots wages, try to hang them out to dry in the court of public opinion and hope nobody notices the millions upon millions we paid ourselves.
Translates roughly to "Do not put the record executive bonuses in doubt". But we can't say that, so we'll inflate pilots wages, try to hang them out to dry in the court of public opinion and hope nobody notices the millions upon millions we paid ourselves.
Public perception and backing is everything! Just seeing history repeating itself from 1989 when Hawke and Ables got a very compliant media to demonise pilots as overpaid hobby farmers and such, eventually to the point where the general public hated the domestic pilots and applauded military and foreigners doing the job while heralding in a new low COS structure for that time.
So now we have a pre-emptive strike from the management, $300K, 75 hrs per month, low fares would be threatened, yada yada, with no public response from the AFAP ( that I know of ).
Those in Melbourne may be aware of a dispute with tram drivers stopping work this week and the TV networks giving both management and union representatives an opportunity to state their case, not so in this potential dispute with JQ pilots, just a one sided view.
IMHO the AFAP needs to demand an equal opportunity to point out the average earnings of all JQ pilots, Captains/FO/SO, that 75 hours a month flight time requires probably 120 a month duty time plus say 40 hours a month on standby/reserve, maybe up to 8 nights/days per month in some bacteria infected hotel room and all the other factors involved in obtaining and keeping a pilot licence.
So now we have a pre-emptive strike from the management, $300K, 75 hrs per month, low fares would be threatened, yada yada, with no public response from the AFAP ( that I know of ).
Those in Melbourne may be aware of a dispute with tram drivers stopping work this week and the TV networks giving both management and union representatives an opportunity to state their case, not so in this potential dispute with JQ pilots, just a one sided view.
IMHO the AFAP needs to demand an equal opportunity to point out the average earnings of all JQ pilots, Captains/FO/SO, that 75 hours a month flight time requires probably 120 a month duty time plus say 40 hours a month on standby/reserve, maybe up to 8 nights/days per month in some bacteria infected hotel room and all the other factors involved in obtaining and keeping a pilot licence.
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"Lollipop workers could earn close to $180,000 a year on regional construction projects under minimum conditions being considered by the Queensland Labor government."
Financial Review
Above salary for a pretty easy, minimal training, non technical job puts airline salaries into some sort of perspective really.
Financial Review
Above salary for a pretty easy, minimal training, non technical job puts airline salaries into some sort of perspective really.
Unfortunately there will be little public sympathy with figures of $300k being bandied about and that's exactly what management are trying to achieve. Highlight flight time rather than time on duty, and don't bother to mention nights, weekends and public holiday either.
At all costs keep quiet about how much pilot incomes have fallen in relative terms since the 1970s and how much executive incomes and bonuses have risen.
At all costs keep quiet about how much pilot incomes have fallen in relative terms since the 1970s and how much executive incomes and bonuses have risen.