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Old 26th Sep 2019, 03:04
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Originally Posted by Horatio Leafblower
Dick,
As usual you are pursuing your own agenda. I wonder what you could do to help Glen Buckley?
If you actually worked with the team, and supported causes that the GA industry is currently fighting against CASA, you might achieve something constructive.

Instead here you are, still screaming into the wind alone like you did on Airspace reform in the Class E debate 15-20 years ago.

Get with the team.
I think you might need counselling for your deep-seated Dick-issues.
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Old 26th Sep 2019, 03:18
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Look at your manuals and you see the Autopilot being required to be used more and more.

Then you go to the simulator and people are scratching their heads why people don’t have the skills. Bizarre system/scenario.

All of this for airspace management and “safety” figures. The tail has been wagging the dog for a long time.
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Old 26th Sep 2019, 07:16
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I just spoke to a trainee from India today who told me that some schools over there have their students solo with an instructor in the right seat. Not sure how this is supposed to make me feel. Using an induction argument, you could still argue that if the instructor is trained to the same standard, this is pretty much a solo anyway.
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Old 26th Sep 2019, 07:22
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The point is not about the future of automation, but the fact that when the automation starts fighting against you, and no matter how advanced it is it will, then you need to be able to disengage and stabilise the situation before scratching your head and working it out. Nobody likes or accepts the computers killing us, they are not the top of the food chain.
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Old 26th Sep 2019, 23:44
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Its just that Boeing never envisioned the corruption, and lip service to training and standards by some of the airlines out there coupled with the ineptitude of some of their crew
Both manufacturers have known for quite some time, its just convenient to to turn a blind eye. Its also easier to turn away when it goes on in third world countries on the other side of the globe.

Certain aircraft exceedances are reported directly airframe to manufacturer.
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Old 27th Sep 2019, 00:05
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Originally Posted by mates rates
After reading this it just confirms the auto throttle will kill you in these automated aircraft.Neither crew in these accidents thought to reduce or close the throttles.
I don't think that is necessarily correct with regards to the Lion Air crew. After getting to 5,000 feet there are something like 10 changes to N1 in about 7 minutes. That's not likely to have all been the AT is it?
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