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Old 20th Sep 2019, 08:44
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Why don’t they upgrade their Caravan Pilots? Something called internal progression I think it’s called.

The low capacity RPT requirement of 500multi command make progression for the Caravan pilots very hard. The impractical and unobtainable dangling carrot.

Skytrans have progressed a few pilots off the C208 onto the Dash over the last two years.

As far as their AOC, yes, the Dash 8-100 is classified as a Low Cap aircraft due to seating 36, however Skytrans hold a High Cap AOC as they operated -300's in the past and I believe they intend to again.

WRT salary: (to the best of my knowledge) : Capt - $105K, F/O $75k (or thereabouts). Overnights are very rare. No EBA but everyone gets offered the same contract and I don't think there's much room for negotiation.

It's not a bad gig if you want to be home nights and have 99.9% of all weekends off. The flying is pretty good, if not repetitive and the crew are a really good bunch to work with.

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Old 21st Sep 2019, 01:29
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Originally Posted by Nose wheel first View Post
Skytrans have progressed a few pilots off the C208 onto the Dash over the last two years.

As far as their AOC, yes, the Dash 8-100 is classified as a Low Cap aircraft due to seating 36, however Skytrans hold a High Cap AOC as they operated -300's in the past and I believe they intend to again.

WRT salary: (to the best of my knowledge) : Capt - $105K, F/O $75k (or thereabouts). Overnights are very rare. No EBA but everyone gets offered the same contract and I don't think there's much room for negotiation.

It's not a bad gig if you want to be home nights and have 99.9% of all weekends off. The flying is pretty good, if not repetitive and the crew are a really good bunch to work with.

NWF
Well if a $105,000 is the best they can do, I would've declined the job anyway....WTF a $105,000 for a Dash Captain!
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Old 21st Sep 2019, 08:30
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What are the other regional turboprop operators paying their Captains? It is probably a little on the low side in opinion, however I would also be considering the lifestyle issues and cost of living in Cairns compared to some of the capital cities.

Cobham pay more however their operations would be more challenging.

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Old 24th Sep 2019, 05:55
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high cap AOC

Originally Posted by Nose wheel first View Post
Skytrans have progressed a few pilots off the C208 onto the Dash over the last two years.

As far as their AOC, yes, the Dash 8-100 is classified as a Low Cap aircraft due to seating 36, however Skytrans hold a High Cap AOC as they operated -300's in the past and I believe they intend to again.

WRT salary: (to the best of my knowledge) : Capt - $105K, F/O $75k (or thereabouts). Overnights are very rare. No EBA but everyone gets offered the same contract and I don't think there's much room for negotiation.

It's not a bad gig if you want to be home nights and have 99.9% of all weekends off. The flying is pretty good, if not repetitive and the crew are a really good bunch to work with.

NWF
Some of the DH1’s were certified for 40 seats, MSN0036 OR QQG is one example, consequently the AOC is HICAP
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Old 24th Sep 2019, 06:00
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Originally Posted by CAVOK92 View Post
There are a couple of adds up on the AFAP website for crew based in Perth and Townsville. Some expansion? Didn’t think they had enough airframes for their current schedule.
New management got ahead of themselves, thought they had won Golden Grove contract. Expansion back on hold
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Old 24th Sep 2019, 08:21
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Expansion or contraction. Rumour is they have laid off their engineering staff
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Old 24th Sep 2019, 08:50
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Originally Posted by Justa Dash View Post


New management got ahead of themselves, thought they had won Golden Grove contract. Expansion back on hold
Wasn't aware that Golden Grove contract was up for renewal.
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Old 24th Sep 2019, 22:26
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Induced Turb, check post 36. It refers to Hawker Pacific taking over maintenance
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Old 26th Sep 2019, 04:37
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More like Skytrans imploding

I lived and worked in FNQ for 25 years. It is lovely how Skytrans went tits-up once before, and blamed all and sundry for the collapse other than Management itself, who were to blame. Ironically the Commercial Manager from Skytrans Mk 1 went across to Westwing/Skytrans Mk 2 as CEO. Now he suddenly departs and the Engineers are made redundant. So much for being loyal to the locally employed engineers. Shame on Thurston for allowing this to happen also. And so much for ‘community spirit’. Interestingly CASA have been all over Skytrans Mk 2 much the same as they were crawling all over Skytrans Mk 1. History repeating itself??

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Old 27th Sep 2019, 23:05
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Originally Posted by Paragraph377 View Post
I lived and worked in FNQ for 25 years. It is lovely how Skytrans went tits-up once before, and blamed all and sundry for the collapse other than Management itself, who were to blame. Ironically the Commercial Manager from Skytrans Mk 1 went across to Westwing/Skytrans Mk 2 as CEO. Now he suddenly departs and the Engineers are made redundant. So much for being loyal to the locally employed engineers. Shame on Thurston for allowing this to happen also. And so much for ‘community spirit’. Interestingly CASA have been all over Skytrans Mk 2 much the same as they were crawling all over Skytrans Mk 1. History repeating itself??
While I feel for the engineers who have lost their jobs, I struggle to see this as a "Community Spirit" / local issue - the work is going 200m up the road, not overseas! If outsourcing the maintenance makes the operation more sustainable, with engineering staff picked up by other AMOs, then it could be the best thing for multiple sectors of the FNQ community. (I don't really expect it will, but that's another question. Time will tell.....)
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Old 28th Sep 2019, 01:15
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Sky trans name change?

Maybe they should change the name to reflect the local fauna and the style of management?...
....IRUKANDJI AIRLINES
It expands it contracts but progress is minimal
There is is little substance
Everybody can see through it
It stings everybody who comes into contact with it

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Old 12th Oct 2019, 07:09
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Nope. They had Dash 8-300 airframes in the past and they remain on the AOC.
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Old 13th Oct 2019, 00:01
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I heard a rumour that a number of key staff from Corporate Air have been poached by another operator.
Skytrans or Hevilift?
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Old 13th Oct 2019, 01:41
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If indeed true what does that say about Corporate Air??
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Old 13th Oct 2019, 02:01
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What are key staff, Chief pilot leaving?
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