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Qf syd-jnb 7700?

Old 2nd Jun 2019, 03:52
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Qf syd-jnb 7700?

As per title, reckon it's legit? (flight radar showing so from what I can tell)
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 04:01
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 06:08
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Med diversion.

For once it’s not these pieces of $hit going tech.
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 06:15
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post
Med diversion.

For once it’s not these pieces of $hit going tech.
In my experience passengers are “going tech” more often than aiicraft.
Look at the newer “no maintenance “ aircraft in service - they seem to have issues as well!
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 07:42
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7700 for a sick pax??????????

A/C in grave and imminent danger?????????

what.
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 08:54
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post
Med diversion.

For once it’s not these pieces of $hit going tech.
what makes you say the B744 are pieces of crap?
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 09:12
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Have you actually flown a 747 ER? I guess not, as I’ve never heard a pilot describe an aircraft as ‘going tech’.
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 09:30
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"going tech" is not an expression usually heard in Australia although it's a very common substitute for 'U/S' in the UK.
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 10:35
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post
Med diversion.

For once it’s not these pieces of $hit going tech.
Give me a 15 year old 744 any day.
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 10:39
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post
Med diversion.

For once it’s not these pieces of $hit going tech.
They are actually not pieces of crap they are aircraft like all aircraft that require maintenance and alas in Qantas they don’t get enough of that due to not been on the ground long enough, inadequate spares and not enough engineers to fix them.
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 10:57
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Which has nothing to do with today’s medical diversion!
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 12:34
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7700 for a sick pax??????????

A/C in grave and imminent danger?????????

what.
Where does it state anywhere that 7700 indicates ‘A/C in grave and imminent danger’?

From Airservices Australia:
  • Pilots of aircraft encountering an emergency in flight, other than loss of two-way communications, should select code 7700
And this,
  • In the event of an in-flight emergency, pilots call ‘mayday’ or ‘pan’ to air traffic control to alert controllers to the severity of the incident.
  • A ‘pan’ call is used to describe a less urgent situation but one that still requires attention from air traffic control. Examples of ‘pan’ situations include a passenger medical emergency or instrument malfunction.

Seems to me like a PAN and 7700 is entirely in order. I’m sure if it was your kid or parent dying on a plane you’d want the crew using every possible tactic available to them to get that plane on the ground as quickly and safely as possible.

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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 14:40
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what makes you say the B744 are pieces of crap?
Fly Singapore, Qatar, Etihad, Cathay, Emirates
heck even Delta or American and you will see how woeful the entire Qantas experience is these days, more specifically the 747.

I have arrived at the conclusion that Qantas Management and employees think the current product and service standard is world class. But then why are they fairly non existent outside of Sydney? The competitors most certainly have them by the balls and rightly so!

On an engineering front, well they cost 25-30% more to operate compared to a big twin which is why nobody else flies them anymore.

Recently a charter group wanted a big heavy for a global charter, and they wouldn’t give QF the job until they refreshed the 747 Business cabin as they claimed it was prehistoric, so if your wondering why one bird has a more updated look.
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post

Fly Singapore, Qatar, Etihad, Cathay, Emirates
heck even Delta or American and you will see how woeful the entire Qantas experience is these days, more specifically the 747.

I have arrived at the conclusion that Qantas Management and employees think the current product and service standard is world class. But then why are they fairly non existent outside of Sydney? The competitors most certainly have them by the balls and rightly so!

On an engineering front, well they cost 25-30% more to operate compared to a big twin which is why nobody else flies them anymore.

Recently a charter group wanted a big heavy for a global charter, and they wouldn’t give QF the job until they refreshed the 747 Business cabin as they claimed it was prehistoric, so if your wondering why one bird has a more updated look.
None of these comments support your assertion the B744 frequently “go tech”. Who calls aircraft “birds” ?
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 00:55
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Originally Posted by Ken Borough View Post
"going tech" is not an expression usually heard in Australia although it's a very common substitute for 'U/S' in the UK.
Amongst pilots?
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 01:35
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Originally Posted by Beer Baron View Post

Where does it state anywhere that 7700 indicates ‘A/C in grave and imminent danger’?

From Airservices Australia:
  • Pilots of aircraft encountering an emergency in flight, other than loss of two-way communications, should select code 7700
And this,
  • In the event of an in-flight emergency, pilots call ‘mayday’ or ‘pan’ to air traffic control to alert controllers to the severity of the incident.
  • A ‘pan’ call is used to describe a less urgent situation but one that still requires attention from air traffic control. Examples of ‘pan’ situations include a passenger medical emergency or instrument malfunction.
Seems tome like a PAN and 7700 is entirely in order. I’m sure if it was your kid or parent dying on a plane you’d want the crew using every possible tactic available to them to get that plane on the ground as quickly and safely as possible.

fair enough but I’ve had many medical emergencies in flight requiring priority and we didn’t set 7700.....or declare a PAN.
just seems a little over the top.

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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 01:58
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ACMS,

If you don’t declare a PAN, ATC can’t do anything to help you with track shortening, high speed, zero delays etc. They will tell you as such if you’re ever in the situation, but once you use the magic PAN word they can move everyone else out of the way.

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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 02:01
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BEER BARON...

In-flight emergencies | Airservices

Right there.

"A ‘mayday’ call indicates an aircraft is in grave and imminent danger and requires immediate assistance. "
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 02:11
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How can an aircraft be in grave and imminent danger? Surely it is the occupants needing assistance!
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 03:06
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Originally Posted by Transition Layer View Post
ACMS,

If you don’t declare a PAN, ATC can’t do anything to help you with track shortening, high speed, zero delays etc. They will tell you as such if you’re ever in the situation, but once you use the magic PAN word they can move everyone else out of the way.



rubbish, I’ve had several medical emergencies both in Oz and overseas with diversions en route and at destination before, didn’t you read my post?

Simply declared a medical emergency, requested priority and it WAS DONE.
High speed direct number 1, all ok.


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