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CASA temporarily suspends all Boeing 737 MAX operations to/from Australia

Old 12th Mar 2019, 09:08
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CASA temporarily suspends all Boeing 737 MAX operations to/from Australia

CASA’s CEO and Director of Aviation Safety, Shane Carmody, said that in light of the two recent fatal accidents, the temporary suspension of Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations was in the best interests of safety
www.casa.gov.au/media-release/boeing-737-max-operations-temporarily-suspended
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 09:35
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Working O/S so not up with local stuff - does anyone currently operate MAX into/out of OZ?

None within OZ surely - but happy to be corrected.

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Old 12th Mar 2019, 09:38
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And right after “Virgin Pilots” leaping to defend the type...

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/...fence-737-max/
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 09:39
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Originally Posted by galdian View Post
Working O/S so not up with local stuff - does anyone currently operate MAX into/out of OZ?

None within OZ surely - but happy to be corrected.

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Fiji and Silkair. No one internally.
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 09:44
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Boeing has delivered more than 10,000 737 aircraft since it first flew in 1967,
Not really something to crow about, methinks.
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 09:49
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DQ-FAB will be collecting cobwebs at YSSY it seems.

Not sure if a NG can make Cairns and back but they often send them to Darwin.
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 09:57
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And right after “Virgin Pilots” leaping to defend the type...
please don’t tar all Virgin pilots with that particular brush
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 10:01
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CASA temporarily suspends all Boeing 737 MAX operations to/from Australia

Wow! CASA really waving the big stick!
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 10:09
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom View Post
CASA temporarily suspends all Boeing 737 MAX operations to/from Australia

Wow! CASA really waving the big stick!
Leading from the front....
Although the real front is likely many miles ahead of them
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 10:21
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For once CASA are doing the right thing. There's obviously a problem with this version of the old 737 & perhaps the less trained/experienced drivers are unable to handle the fault when it occurs?
Airbus have had their fair share of similar issues so will be interesting to see how Boeing get out of this one unscathed cause Airbus sure has coped a lot of flak over the years!
RIP to the many that lost their lives in such a dreadful tragedy:-(
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 11:22
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Originally Posted by Snakecharma View Post
please don’t tar all Virgin pilots with that particular brush
Hence the doible quotation. Geoffrey Thomas on the other hand has no qualms representating the entire VA pilot base.
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 12:01
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I may be mistaken, but don't Malindo also operate a Max to Australia?

Maybe CASA forgot about them........
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 19:25
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Originally Posted by galdian View Post
Working O/S so not up with local stuff - does anyone currently operate MAX into/out of OZ?

None within OZ surely - but happy to be corrected.

Cheers.
NZ still have them arriving

https://www.radionz.co.nz/internatio...max-8s-into-nz

Next one due in tomorrow

Cheers

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Old 12th Mar 2019, 22:42
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Originally Posted by Snakecharma View Post
please don’t tar all Virgin pilots with that particular brush
Well it certainly doesn’t help when the VIPA president comes out and states that ‘VIPA (representing Virgin Group Pilots) continues to have the utmost confidence in the Boeing 737 and the rigorous training that Virgin Australia provides its pilots.”

The VIPA President then goes on to say “We look forward to its introduction at Virgin Australia as it brings outstanding commercial advantages to the airline and enhanced customer appeal”.

What about the considerable chance that there is an issue with the aircraft that has resulted in the deaths of 300 people? That doesn’t seem to matter because the aircraft brings commercial advantage? Crazy stuff.

The stupidity of these comments are confounded by the fact that the Chinese, Indonesian, Singaporean, UK CAA, CASA and other regulators have banned the aircraft from operating in their jurisdictions. But it’s not just the regulators that are concerned - the union representing pilots working for Aerolíneas Argentinaa has also banned its Pilots from operating Max aircraft.

The comments above from the VIPA President are obviously from the leader of a Union who is grossly out of touch with the industry. If the leader of the union is so out of touch - that is probably a reflection on the union as a whole.
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 23:37
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NZ now Grounding them also. Believe Fiji are the only ones operating them here.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12212260
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Old 13th Mar 2019, 01:27
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I think the Colonel is on the money! Do VIPA and Virgin have the same spin doctor?
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Old 13th Mar 2019, 01:37
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I somewhat doubt the same outcome would occur if QF had 70 or so MAX aircraft. I find it amusing that without any actual evidence of any aircraft defect, and only a bit of radar data that also represents a stall, the panic button was pressed by the sheep after what will nearly certainly be a China - US trade war decision. I seriously hope the investigation is thorough. I'd have a nice little chuckle if the end result is pilot error and nothing to do with the aircraft.
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I somewhat doubt the same outcome would occur if QF had 70 or so MAX aircraft. I find it amusing that without any actual evidence of any aircraft defect, and only a bit of radar data that also represents a stall, the panic button was pressed by the sheep after what will nearly certainly be a China - US trade war decision. I seriously hope the investigation is thorough. I'd have a nice little chuckle if the end result is pilot error and nothing to do with the aircraft.
Couldn't agree more. At the moment everything is just speculation and we have no reports to base any conclusion, so I am on the fence with this one. The saddest thing in all of this as always is the unecessary loss of human life.

I sincerely hope that this doesn't become politicised and it is investigated for what it is; an aircraft accident with the loss of life that had a cause leading to an outcome.
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Old 13th Mar 2019, 02:42
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I find it amusing that without any actual evidence of any aircraft defect, and only a bit of radar data that also represents a stall, the panic button was pressed
Seriously, no evidence???

Please explain the 2 aircraft crashes in short succession, a new Boeing cost savings design, cobbled onto an older design to avoid going through costly re-approvals, with Boeing's proven "schedule before safety" track record, and a new MCAS system that Boeing tried to hide, prior to these issues, that steers the aircraft downwards with no indication or notification.

Only the FAA/Boeing/USA could continue to deny there is an issue to save face, and ward off mass defections to Airbus.

At least other countries around the world are taking their safety obligations seriously and grounding it.

This just screams B787 all over again. The future whistle-blower exposes by frustrated engineers overruled by bean-counters and project managers in the future will be very interesting indeed.

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I'd have a nice little chuckle if the end result is pilot error and nothing to do with the aircraft.
Seems Boeing are already trying this on, by declaring the procedures to disable this "undisclosed" system behavior are documented somewhere deep within their manuals, but it seems they "forgot" to tell anybody about this until after the crashes in typical CYA mode.
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Old 13th Mar 2019, 02:44
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Would have a comment but won't as it would be considered racial
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