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High-flying Hawaiian Airlines boss in race to pilot Virgin Australia

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Old 11th Dec 2018, 10:27
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Anyone would think they were preparing for the second coming.
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Anyone would think they were preparing for the second coming.
And even the second coming won't help such a basket case!
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And even the second coming won't help such a basket case!
Says the QANTAS stooge.

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Old 25th Dec 2018, 10:07
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Three cheers for the new CEO
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Old 25th Dec 2018, 22:49
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Three cheers for the new CEO
Dunkerly was largely quite liked by the pilot group. The board is the group that voted for/against pilot contracts, not the ceo.
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Old 25th Dec 2018, 23:15
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Contract issues has been largely a USA wide issue for decades certainly not unique to HA.


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Contract issues has been largely a USA wide issue for decades certainly not unique to HA.
Okay thanks for your input Mr Dunkley.
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Dunkerly was largely quite liked by the pilot group. The board is the group that voted for/against pilot contracts, not the ceo.
The placards literally have his name on them
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Old 26th Dec 2018, 06:57
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Okay thanks for your input Mr Dunkley.
I was at LAX few months ago and Alaska Pilots were picketing on the sidewalk.

If if you have worked over there you would be well aware of industry contract problems. All bar Southwest !
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 18:51
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I was at LAX few months ago and Alaska Pilots were picketing on the sidewalk.

If if you have worked over there you would be well aware of industry contract problems. All bar Southwest !
Nope.




Southwest Pilots.

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/n...-field-as.html

Southwest Mechanics.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...t-new-contract





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Old 27th Dec 2018, 22:28
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Virgin has missed a golden opportunity by not appointing John Thomas, so now we’re going to get a FIFO CEO!
I’ll give him 18 months before he “resigns to spend more time with the family” blah blah blah.
It’s become a bloody circus under JB and no amount of banging fists on desks and shouting is going to compensate for the under resourced mess we see here today.
It’s a bloody shame.......
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Old 28th Dec 2018, 03:54
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Notwithstanding the personal loyalties that come with the fiefdom that the current CEO has built up around him, the blame for the mess needs to be laid directly at the feet of the chairperson.

There are differing reports about Thomas, but I still think he was the best bet the airline had. The US airline executive experiment has failed dismally in the past, particularly with the ex United band of incompentants, with the US airline environment being significantly different to the Australian one, and the US industrial and pilot environment being significantly different.

The ex Hawaiian Airlines guy is British but has spent a lot of time in the US, but tellingly it would seem has spent sod all in Australia.

How hard is it to find a ceo that is willing to treat people properly - find one of those and there is a half decent chance that the airline will succeed.


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Old 28th Dec 2018, 03:58
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It’s become a bloody circus under JB and no amount of banging fists on desks
Become a circus? It started that way and has not changed. Brett Godfrey was the first ringmaster. A legend in his own luch time.
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Old 28th Dec 2018, 06:52
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The sooner you all get the "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" mentality squared away, the easier your life becomes. There are no Herb Kellehers left. Especially in this country.
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Icarus, while I don’t agree with a number of Brett’s philosophies I believed he genuinely cared about the staff, and recognised that the staff, and more importantly their families, were the key to success. And for the most part the business made a profit.

Yes there were things that were not good, there were things that were poorly done, but at the end of the day it was a much better business and much better company to work for than now.

THAT all said, it is still one of the best jobs in aviation in Australia - and while that sounds like a contradiction, there are a heap of things this joint does well.

Finding the special sauce that puts all the good bits of then and now together into one package is the key. We aren’t there yet, and I am hopeful the new boss, whomever that may be, might go some way towards conjuring that magic.

I live in hope.

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Old 28th Dec 2018, 10:49
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There are no Herb Kellehers left.
I’d settle for a Gordon Bethune!
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Old 29th Dec 2018, 01:01
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There are no Herb Kellehers left.
There are but they will never get a gurnsey in this country, too progressive for the corporate culture.
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so who’s actually running the joint at the moment?
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Old 29th Dec 2018, 23:16
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Excellent question!
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Old 30th Dec 2018, 03:37
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so who’s actually running the joint at the moment?
Nobody as far as I can tell.......
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