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What was happening at MEL last night?

Old 14th Nov 2018, 22:02
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What was happening at MEL last night?

Early evening flight from ADL > MEL Weds.14th, DEP delayed for an hour, PA announcement "due flight restrictions in Melbourne".

Later, on board announcement from seat 1A "MEL ATC have imposed a 90 minute delay on all flights, and no-one I've spoken to can explain why ...".

If WX holding or something else, one would assume it would be apparent from forecast/TTF or NOTAM.
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 22:21
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 22:59
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Flying past I assumed it was staffing issues

Or maybe it was rwy 09
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 23:21
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If it was really 90 minutes imposed by ATC, I assumed it was a Eurocat thing and they had metered arrivals.

Chris: your copies of SPECIs are truncated apart from a couple but I see the TEMPO & BKN 005 so I gather it may have been wx related.

Odd then the comment no-one can explain why -
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 23:21
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Same as what normally happens when you fly in and out of Melbourne. Its nothing new.
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Old 15th Nov 2018, 00:26
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Originally Posted by CaptainMidnight View Post
If it was really 90 minutes imposed by ATC, I assumed it was a Eurocat thing and they had metered arrivals.

Chris: your copies of SPECIs are truncated apart from a couple but I see the TEMPO & BKN 005 so I gather it may have been wx related.

Odd then the comment no-one can explain why -
It was before the low cloud
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Old 15th Nov 2018, 01:16
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No weather there below minima so why the big delays?
ATC “rules” in this country is so far behind the rest of the world it is amazing.
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Old 15th Nov 2018, 02:15
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Rest of the country goes alright.
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Old 15th Nov 2018, 02:34
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Or maybe it was rwy 09
There’s a runway 09 in Melbourne???

WTF. That’ll be news to ATC.
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Old 15th Nov 2018, 02:44
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09? Landed on it twice in my career. True story.
Prefer white knuckle 27 wet max weight with quartering tailwind.
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Old 15th Nov 2018, 02:51
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So who is the most aggressive controller in Australia anyway?


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Old 15th Nov 2018, 02:55
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MEL had FID issues last night, may have been a factor.
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Old 15th Nov 2018, 03:54
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Found out from someone in a position to know.

In the morning, bad WX in MEL caused the usual knock-on effects to all throughout the day.

Combine this with 1) the onset of more WX from about 0600z 5pm (cloud down to 500ft at one point, mist & reduced vis), 2) the onset of the peak period with arrivals from everywhere all requiring ILS along with ongoing deps meant metering had to be applied.

Airlines were made aware & reasons, something that often doesn't get communicated down to those at the pointy end.

FWIW those met reports listed above start from 0830z (7:30pm local), by which time things had improved.
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Old 15th Nov 2018, 03:58
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Originally Posted by markis10 View Post
MEL had FID issues last night, may have been a factor.
What's FID?
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Old 15th Nov 2018, 04:44
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Wasn’t there an ILS issue as well?
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Originally Posted by UnderneathTheRadar View Post
What's FID?
Flight Information Displays I believe - the system that displays all flight info in the airport; wouldn’t have thought it would affect ATC though
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