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Old 8th Oct 2018, 08:54
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Im with Pinky, as well. One point Pinky, I think you will find in 'Series Production' racing ( before the Group C regs were adopted)..the cars were basically straight off the showroom floor, and they did not even have a roll cage fitted.

The Supercars are rubbish. Didnt they even have a Nissan racing team? You cant even buy a V8 Nissan ( well perhaps a Patrol) in Australia.!!
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 09:06
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Lukey 500 springs to mind.Then it became the Hardly Ferocious.
The Lukey 500 was preceded by the Armstrong 500 at Philllip Island. Memory tells me that the first was won by a Victoria Police team driving a Studebaker Lark. I could be wrong as my RAM is becoming dimmer and not as effective as it once was.
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 09:35
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They were asked and said “as a business we are endeavoring to become more environmentally friendly, so no flyovers this year.......”
can you bloody believe it, they’re an Airline sponsoring V8 super cars and they want to be environmentally friendly!!

what rubbish.
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 21:09
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Originally Posted by Shot Nancy View Post
Years ago I saw some RAAF Hueys fly around the course with grunts dangling below.
One of the many good reasons that the Army took the helicopters off them.
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 22:08
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Too many stoppages, not enough cars on the track
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All designed for TV. It's to make sure the race is still competitive to the last minute. Remember back to the "good old days" when it would be won by Brocky who was several laps in front of the next contender? They don't want that anymore. Nowadays the only thing worth watching in the entire event is the start to the first corner, and the last couple of laps. Everything else is just filler between the ads.
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 23:58
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Spoken like a person that knows zip about long distance car racing, well done.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 14:10
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I've watched Bathurst over many years. I know what long distance car racing is about. However, I am their audience, and they have lost me. My father would religiously (pardon the pun) set aside the whole day every year to sit and watch. He doesn't bother now. It is boring. I may as well watch F1.
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 05:18
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Sorry if the boys don’t crash the cars and give you entertainment then.......

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Old 10th Oct 2018, 06:24
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I’ll happily sit down and watch Bathurst with the Supercars, but I still think the best days of Bathurst was around that 95-05 period, and even a bit before that. The days when you had teams actually engineering the cars, like Larry Perkins.
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 08:53
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Sorry if the boys don’t crash the cars and give you entertainment then.......
It's not about that. I guess some people are just happy watching artificial competitiveness.
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 09:09
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One point Pinky, I think you will find in 'Series Production' racing ( before the Group C regs were adopted)..the cars were basically straight off the showroom floor, and they did not even have a roll cage fitted.
Struth!! Got a vague idea that you are quite correct, SOPS.

Which, IMHO strengthens my argument that the current version of the Bathurst Car race is not only boring but completely, totally and utterly irrelevant to any cars available in any car dealer's showroom.

and we had rear windows being kicked out and boot lids being attacked with axes.
I remember the two above quoted examples only too well!
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 09:30
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As I recall it, "Series Production" cars had tyres and brake pads/linings free. The rest was straight off the showroom floor except that the engines were allowed to be blue printed.
It was a hell of a competitive class with all of us pushing the rules to the very edge and using all sorts of "good ideas" in the tune.
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 14:05
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As far as I am aware, supercars have a controlled chassis. Every one is the same underneath a plastic skin to reduce costs and thus pay the racing suit wearing commentators more $$. The plastic bodywork is mocked up to resemble whatever marque they are supposed to be. Engine must be from the manufacturer, but I suspect gearbox to driving wheels and braking systems are common as well. They (the w%$nker commentators) never discuss the technical differences between the cars, presumably because there are none.
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 02:17
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Originally Posted by SOPS View Post
Im with Pinky, as well. One point Pinky, I think you will find in 'Series Production' racing ( before the Group C regs were adopted)..the cars were basically straight off the showroom floor, and they did not even have a roll cage fitted.

The Supercars are rubbish. Didnt they even have a Nissan racing team? You cant even buy a V8 Nissan ( well perhaps a Patrol) in Australia.!!
I thought it was hilarious when Nissan won in a 6 cylinder Skyline, and they changed to rules to exclude it from future events. That car was just too good for Aussie rev-heads to cope with.
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 03:29
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Memory fades here, but I recall that it was an all-wheel-drive Skyline that won it, so they said "Only 2-wheel drive from now on."

The next year a 2-wd Skyline won again, so the rules changed to ban Skylines. And now we have that garbage race.

Bring back the Minis and VWs and Jaguars.
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 08:44
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They did used to have a touring car category Bathurst even when the Supercars were running seperately, obviously it wasn’t popular enough. The crowds wanted the V8 Supercars.

Bathurst 12hr is the closest you get to the touring car race.

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Old 11th Oct 2018, 15:49
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They did not do an AFL flyover citing environmental concerns so highly doubtful they did one today.

I was at the Western Bulldogs 2016 Grand Final a few years ago and Virgin did an A330 flyover and it was quite boring. Few at the ground noticed or cared. Civilian airplanes are quite dreary in flyovers. Perhaps a high drag flypast may have got some attention due noise but otherwise, nick-off, I'm here for the footy. A Hornet would be cool or even a C17, but really? An Airbus? Apologies to the Virgin pilots who probably felt they were pretty exciting in a "mission" contrasting with their usual busing about of bogans.
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Old 15th Oct 2018, 22:23
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Why do the reporters wear racing suits?
Following a fire in the pits in F1 about 20 years ago, it was thought to be a good idea that whenever cars are refuelling, that pit crew and media should be protected.
I recall initially working in jeans and shirt one year , then being supplied with same kit minus logos as the team (so we looked professional) and then being measured by McClaren for a fire suit.. they wouldn’t let us keep it after the gig

I recall at one point F1 race they had a 1000 litre tank with pump and foam between garages with a fireman at the ready. Not enough space to do that everywhere.

You may recall the crash in 2011 at Bathurst, end of the long straight after first corner, where a fuel tank was split and fuel was sprayed as the car spun. Fire ensued. The fuel sprayed across a cameraman, it could be seen covering the lens in the live coverage.

The choice of design of the commentators suit is interesting. No question that a one piece car car/pilot suit offers more protection than a two piece, especially if there is a threat of an explosion of enveloping flame as exists inside a garage with a liquid fuel fire.

A larger budget would help make the coverage more interesting, but there comes a point as with F1 when unless the race delivers the excitement no amount of tv whizzardy compensates.

Unlike F1 a bit of drift in this thread

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Old 16th Oct 2018, 02:46
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I thought it was hilarious when Nissan won in a 6 cylinder Skyline, and they changed to rules to exclude it from future events. That car was just too good for Aussie rev-heads to cope with.
Queue Jim Richards on the podium: "You're a pack of @rseholes" ... funniest thing ever said in Australian motorsport and so so true.
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 03:12
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Originally Posted by Like This - Do That View Post
Queue Jim Richards on the podium: "You're a pack of @rseholes" ... funniest thing ever said in Australian motorsport and so so true.
The funniest thing was the look of disbelief on the face of co-driver Mark Skaife.

Maintaining the thread drift and getting back to the Besnard fire, did they ever establish the ignition source given that the fire appears to have started at the fence and spread towards the car?
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