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Old 22nd Jun 2018, 06:22
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom View Post
  • Alice Springs, Northern Territory
  • Bendigo, Victoria
  • Busselton, Western Australia
  • Dubbo, New South Wales
  • Launceston, Tasmania
  • Mackay, Queensland
  • Tamworth, New South Wales
  • Toowoomba, Queensland
  • Wagga Wagga, New South Wales

I'd be surprised if it didn't go to Tamworth or Wagga Wagga. But I've been surprised before!
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Wouldn't Alice Springs be the obvious site ---- "fair to all the states and territories" being equally inconvenient for everybody, with limited distractions for the cadets --- unless bar brawls are your preferred entertainment, and a few other "attractions" that are probably best left unsaid.
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Old 22nd Jun 2018, 08:15
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I thought having an ILS was one of the requirements?
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Old 22nd Jun 2018, 08:53
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The QF article mentioned, their aim is to have 2 locations, as they won't be able to accommodate the training output from a single site.
One of the training locations should have an ILS and be located close to other navaids.

Alice Springs: I don't think so. Dust storms, also students can get lost on navex's due to it's remoteness.

Wagga Wagga: A major flying school is there.

Dubbo: Could be one of the locations.

Tamworth: Yes. For the advanced training part also it's close to Dubbo.

My pick: Dubbo and Tamworth.
 
Old 22nd Jun 2018, 08:54
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What about Toowoomba welcamp. Use Oakey ils.
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Old 22nd Jun 2018, 12:11
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Probably finally depends on how much ($) they (QF) can coax out of which state government to make it happen !

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Old 22nd Jun 2018, 12:26
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Surely thoughts would need to take into account where the FI’s might want to be based.

Not like there here is an abundance of those about these days....
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Old 22nd Jun 2018, 13:06
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No doubt they’ll be dangled a carrot by QF.

”Give us x years and you can apply via the EOI...”

Meanwhile training people who will be ahead of you in seniority.. ��

Does this mean that the QF group will start employing fewer ex flight instructors so as to not drain the pond too much? Offer them the “Thanks but no thanks” email with a “but... we have a flying school if you’d like a job.”
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Old 23rd Jun 2018, 07:12
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Originally Posted by Professional Amateur View Post
What about Toowoomba welcamp. Use Oakey ils.
Definitely in the top 5 and a bit of a dark horse in the race. Queensland Government and Wagners will be pushing hard . Toowoomba booming at the moment and the new bypass that passes Wellcamp opening soon. Qantas fly in twice a day!

Launceston out for the weather.

Alice Springs last for sure !
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Old 23rd Jun 2018, 08:18
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Yeah tbar is a no brainer. No competition. Ils 10nm away. Army is shrinking ita operations there. Great there city to live in nearby. Private airport run by a pragmatic businessman. Empty airport with plenty of room for an academy. 1.5h from Brisbane (by car). Centerally located in Australia...... The list goes on.
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Old 23rd Jun 2018, 08:40
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The whole thing is a con, no business person in their right mind would put their own money into such a project. Every boom is followed by a bust, so any hapless investor who gets stooged with this one best have deep pockets because as we all know only too well the bust will last for years. ( That is why Q want others to finance it and take the risks ).
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Old 2nd Jul 2018, 07:58
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I don't think Dubbo could be an option for the new QF flying academy, watched tonight's news, there's too much crime lately in the area,
compared to the rest of the state (NSW).

Reckon, Tamworth and Toowoomba/wellcamp airport could be the best picks.
 
Old 2nd Jul 2018, 08:51
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I reckon Dubbo would be a shoe in if the School is headed up with the former Airlink boss DM as CFI. His instructional techniques and motivational skills are second to none!
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Old 2nd Jul 2018, 08:55
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Originally Posted by Don Diego View Post
The whole thing is a con, no business person in their right mind would put their own money into such a project. Every boom is followed by a bust, so any hapless investor who gets stooged with this one best have deep pockets because as we all know only too well the bust will last for years. ( That is why Q want others to finance it and take the risks ).
It is also an indictment of modern management practice.
Airlines need pilots otherwise Operating Revenue drops to zero.

It would seem self evident that a steady supply of pilots would be considered a strategic imperative.
Unfortunately Qantas is not about being an airline. Airlines are hard work.

In the minds of the creative folk in marketing every little bit of what ought be a strategic and therefore expeditiously researched, funded and operational structure, is spun for all it is worth.

Like the junket announcing the 'first 787' for Qantas conveniently ignored the other 600 odd flying and indeed the 11 in service with JQ, this whole thing is all tip no iceberg.
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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 11:04
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From the SMH:
'Qantas has asked regional cities and state governments to apply to host the new school, and has whittled the bids down to 10 - Alice Springs (Northern Territory), Bendigo (Victoria), Busselton (Western Australia), Toowoomba (Queensland), Launceston (Tasmania), and Dubbo, Tamworth and Wagga Wagga (NSW).'

Yeah I only count 8......but my money is on Toowoomba. We taking bets?
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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 11:28
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PA - article omitted Mackay.
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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 11:33
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When they say Toowoomba, are they talking Wellcamp or the Toowoomba town airport?
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Old 4th Jul 2018, 01:50
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom View Post
When they say Toowoomba, are they talking Wellcamp or the Toowoomba town airport?
I reckon wellcamp. Capacity to build own facilities but importantly..... Deal with a businessman rather than a council.
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Old 4th Jul 2018, 02:47
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Oxford been travelling to Tamworth. I'm not too sure if thats part of their training flights, or their management team heading there for meetings or site inspections? A typical off Moorabbin landing lasts for 20-30mins, but Tamworth trips have been more than that.
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Old 4th Jul 2018, 05:16
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Army is shrinking ita operations there
Not so. Singapore Air Force is moving its CH-47 Chinook training to Oakey from Texas. They still have SAF Super Pumas based there for training and support at Rocky..

New control tower being built at the base. Only Kiowas leaving...

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Old 4th Jul 2018, 08:32
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Qantas has asked regional cities and state governments to apply to host the new school
Hang on, who's school is it?
Capacity to build own facilities
I don't think QF has any intention of doing much of that.
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