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Old 28th Apr 2018, 23:16
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Hahaha the middle management accusation. Always a winner
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 23:17
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Originally Posted by mostlytossas
. You blokes arn't Air Services middle management by chance?
LOL, nope, former Sydney Melbourne Radar Controller then worked 1500 movements a day at Bankstown with Mark 1 eyeballs and brain as the only aids.
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Old 28th Apr 2018, 23:23
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Pipe down markis you had the easiest ATC job in the world
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Old 29th Apr 2018, 21:03
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Traffic volume ≠ task complexity ≠ workload
Few flights + many procedures = high workload.

You are not busy because of actual flights. You are busy repeating call signs and doing stuff that no one else does or cares about.
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 02:45
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Originally Posted by mikk_13
Few flights + many procedures = high workload.

You are not busy because of actual flights. You are busy repeating call signs and doing stuff that no one else does or cares about.
Pretty much sums up the joy of being an airservices atc at times. No one could argue Australia has congested airspace, but outdated airspace design, complex and inflexible internal coordination and flow procedures, cumbersome RT requirements and workload intensive HMI (not to mention "separation assurance".....) and an obsession with reporting the most innocuous deviations from procedure, can and do lead to high workload subsequently affecting the end product. It could be so much simpler.
A couple of aussie atcs I've spoken to who have departed for overseas jobs in busier places (dxb, europe etc..) have said that they find the job itself easier despite much higher traffic levels, mostly due to sensible procedures and being permitted to focus on actually separating traffic rather than mindless compliance with endless rules and procedures. Conversely, overseas atcs moving to australia often express frustration with same.
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 03:12
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Descend via the STAR.....
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 03:18
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...Climb via the SID...waiting for ‘land on the runway’ and ‘taxi on the taxiway’.
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 03:22
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..... to the assigned gate from the company.

Require readback
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Old 30th Apr 2018, 15:12
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...Climb via the SID...waiting for ‘land on the runway’ and ‘taxi on the taxiway’.
It's coming (to YSSY ERSA) :ACFT landing or taking off must confine operations to sealed runways."
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Old 1st May 2018, 01:55
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Could be worse.

A friend is working on the ATC rollout in the Philippines funded by the Japanese government.

There are remote locations that still use magnets and whiteboards for international carriers...
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