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Old 27th Mar 2018, 02:44
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Do the right thing

'Do the right thing': Qantas boss tells Cricket Australia to deal with scandal
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Cricket Australia has been told by major sponsor Qantas to deal with its cheating scandal as quickly as possible, with the airline's chief executive Alan Joyce saying that the incident had damaged Australia's global reputation as the land of the "fair go".

Mr Joyce said he was “extremely disappointed” by the incident, which has seen his airline's logo - embroidered on disgraced former captain Steve Smith’s official team cap – printed on the front pages of newspapers across the globe.

“We are extremely disappointed with what they’ve done,” Mr Joyce said at an event at the Australian High Commission in London early on Tuesday morning, Australia time.

Australia’s all about a fair go… and unfortunately our cricket team have let us down.”

Mr Joyce said the incident, in which Smith has admitted to hatching a plot for bowler Cameron Bancroft to tamper with the ball on day three of the test series in South Africa, had damaged Australia’s reputation abroad.

“So we’ve said to Cricket Australia: you need to address this and need to address this fast - you need to do the right thing,” Mr Joyce said.

Mr Joyce said it was reasonable that Cricket Australia needed to conduct its investigation into the incident, but nonetheless Qantas was "in dialogue" with the sports body and wanted the issue resolved “as fast as possible”.

"We want them to make a statement about that this is not acceptable to the rest of the world, because the rest of the world figures that’s the case,” he said.

While he took a strong stance on the scandal, Mr Joyce said Qantas was “nowhere near” the point of withdrawing sponsorship, and had not threatened to do so.

Mr Joyce said he was sure that Cricket Australia understood the significance of the incident.

“If you just look at the worldwide publicity, you know the significance of it,” he said.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...27-p4z6ee.html

If you just look at the worldwide publicity, you know the significance of it,” he said.
Did he think of worldwide publicity and the significance of it a few years ago when his actions closed the airline down?
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Old 27th Mar 2018, 02:53
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Big call from a company that pleaded guilty to price fixing.

Qantas admitted to making and giving effect to the understanding, repeatedly exchanging assurances amongst airlines in the implementation of fuel surcharge increases and reaching local agreements in certain Asian countries collectively.

"Cartels - particularly those that are engaged in by large businesses with broad application over a period of time – have a significant effect on consumers. They are an unseen fraud on the community that must be uncovered and punished," Australian Competition and Consumer Commission Chairman, Mr Graeme Samuel said today.
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Farkme!!! Finally something richer than him!
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"So you see, Your Honour, history shows that I am not the first person that has quite deliberately and in a pre-meditated manner killed someone, therefore on those grounds I should be let off"


Yeah, right.
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It’s all about premeditation....oh, and that you think “I’m still the right person for the job”.
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Alan has been known to do a bit of ball tampering himself.
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Australia’s all about a fair go
Quite correct Mr Joyce unless of course it comes to Qantas' transparency.

You and your ilk gagged Lucinda Holdforth from publishing her book.

You do remember that Alan, in the interest of fairness, remove the restraint and let Miss Holdforth explain to us just when she started working on the speech that you delivered on 29 October 2011. You remember the one Mr Joyce explaining to 80,000 passengers, the government and the staff, that somehow it all was decided on the Saturday morning.

With 747 en-route to Heathrow that would have needed 'accommodation' too after you grounded the fleet mid flight. Finding tarmac space for aircraft with wingspans of 60 metres is pretty tricky at 0300UTC...
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Alan has been known to do a bit of ball tampering himself.
I will send you the bill to get the cup of tea out of my computer, mate.
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I will send you the bill to get the cup of tea out of my computer, mate.
Agreed! Brilliant
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Brings new meaning to the term 'play the ball not the man'
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It was still a “game changer” headline that involved the airline, just not the one Alan was hoping for
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AJ taking the moral highground, now there’s a laugh!

Speaking of laughs...

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Welllllll Alan, how very strange that you should make an appearance in a moral debate.

If only it was just ball tampering
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Alan Joyce saying that the incident had damaged Australia's global reputation as the land of the "fair go".
So Mr Joyce if Qantas is above reproach and a Corporate moral beacon, surely you can open the list of members of the Chairman's lounge for public scrutiny? After all Australia is all about a fair go. Cheating and corruption aren't Australian!

You could also 'take the lead' and remove the gag order you insisted the courts impose on Lucinda Holdforth's book. You know how you organised the whole grounding lockout, 2,000 hotel rooms, letters to staff on a Saturday morning in October 2011? Obviously if you actually did as you testified, then she would have written her 'speech' for you that morning after the board meeting? The Freehills lawyers running this campaign for you would have only got a script from her at what time on Saturday afternoon?

No, didn't think so.
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TPE Flyer's post - well, I could not have said it better.
100% correct and well written.
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And now the sights are set on the QF sponsorship of Rugby Australia. An interesting situation looks to be developing there with QF taking exception to Israel Folau stating the Homosexuals will go to hell. Whether he is right or wrong is immaterial and nigh impossible to confirm.

QF however for all of the postulating and almost enforcement of their staff to give Homosexuals (read minority) a fair go and dictating how people should think, are now up in arms about Folau expressing his opinion.

Three things that may happen here, QF to agitate to have Folau apologise, they potential withdrawal of sponsorship or Folau may make it easier for everyone and walk from the game. His contract with RA expires this year.

The crux of the matter is though, this overwhelming PC nonsense and hypocrisy that the QF "Leader" continues to impose on staff and the travelling public
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The crux of the matter is though, this overwhelming PC nonsense and hypocrisy that the QF "Leader" continues to impose on staff and the travelling public
The hypocrisy is amusing, the little man about town, handing out advice to all and sundry.

Mr Joyce, as testament to his hypocrisy, neglected to mention that forcing Qantas passengers through Dubai was an interesting proposition for him and his life partner, not to mention the countless passengers of 'other' persuasion he claims to speak for. Enthusiastically embracing the 'game changing' deal saw Qantas lose hundreds of thousands of passengers, some of whom could not risk imprisonment or worse in the UAE for their choice of sexuality. Am sure Mr Joyce lobbied long and hard against the Emir to abandon the practice. No of course he didn't.

Homosexuality is not something permitted by Article 354 of the Federal Penal Code of the UAE. Not a peep from Mr Joyce on that was there?


Qantas need a new fleet. Run the airline


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It’s not a choice of sexuality, just as much as ones race is not a choice. While I dislike traveling through the Middle East with a passion, it’s worth noting that homosexual relations (between males anyway) is equally as illegal in Singapore. I dare say most homosexual couples (who generally are financially well off, well travelled and more so have an understanding of limitations when they’re outside their home county) would have limited problems in the UAE.

The bigger issue is probably the young, unmarried, straight couple who are heading to Europe and are forced to transit the UAE. Or a group of young, single girls They’re the ones more likely to run into trouble as they’re not accustomed to receiving discrimination.

Not trying to defend the EK tie up. I always thought it was a poor choice and it was one of many reasons I wouldn’t fly Qantas.
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The bigger issue is probably the young, unmarried, straight couple who are heading to Europe and are forced to transit the UAE. Or a group of young, single girls They’re the ones more likely to run into trouble as they’re not accustomed to receiving discrimination.
Valid statement.
The penal code in the UAE a little more draconian, personally the foundation of English law provides more comfort for a westerner than an Islamic one.

That aside, the point is Mr Joyce has stepped well beyond the norms of commentary for a CEO. Rather like his namesake in Australian politics, hypocrisy is not a good optic.

He is a hypocrite, and Lucinda Holdforth's book would probably show he perjured himself too.
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