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Old 19th Aug 2018, 02:10
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Once again De Rated has proven that he is full of it. Not only does he post unsubstantiated rubbish all over this site, for reasons unknown, he has now proven he can’t read, or at least can’t comprehend. Using big words doesn’t change the content of your posts fella, we can all see through it.
He has at least one qrewroom poster fooled. One would be led to believe they are one in the same? Give it a rest RD. I understand this is a runmour network, but your BS may frighten the more vulnerable amongst us. And that’s just simply being an AH.

Appologies if this this fool is a female. Not wanting to be uniclusive.
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 05:05
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Fatguyinacoat,

If you call someone out you have to have to give a reason. You cant just rant that someone is full of it.

This just makes you look like a troll
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 01:37
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Here's exactly how many people take Qantas' 17-hour non-stop flight to London

https://www.afr.com/business/transpo...0180819-h146rl
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 02:39
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Its a bit hard to understand what they are saying, but it sounds like "despite funneling people from Melbourne, onto this route, they still can't get to 80% capacity"

I don't believe 78% of the passengers from London are finishing their journey at Perth.

Which would indicate people from Melbourne are taking alternative route/airlines to go to/from London.
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 02:56
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I don't believe 78% of the passengers from London are finishing their journey at Perth
They arenít necessarily. Many may be choosing a few days stopover before continuing East (or home in the other direction), perhaps others continue elsewhere by road or on Skippers/Rex...

Again, access to Staff travel and/or EFF will show you that the load factors in/out of Perth are very good.

I have heard that even management were surprised at Perth/London/Perth itself providing much of that load, but there it is.
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 03:15
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Yeah it's being pushed as ''the way" for sales. My folks go to europe all the time and have it pushed to them but they decline.
that said, it makes a lot of sense as a route itself given the small aeroplane/niche route, that's what the jet was made for.
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 04:08
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Originally Posted by ExtraShot View Post
...the load factors in/out of Perth are very good.
Indeed. Did both directions in the past few days and carried 88% both ways. The day behind me southbound was 101% (not an empty seat and several infants). But we shouldn't let truth get in the way of a good story.
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 05:11
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If you are a MEL passenger and in particular a premium passenger I know they are pushing MEL-PER-LHR as the only QF metal option.
You can go via A380 to SIN but a 7 hour wait doesnít work for the majority. Some first passengers that will pay anything and want P class are even going via SYD but only the die hard QF lovers. The rest go EK.
For J pax most save the 7 hour wait and have no choice now.
By removing a 500 seat aircraft and going to a 236 seater you donít need to be a genuis to work out they are going to fill the replacement from both MEL/PER to LHR.
But cut capacity by that much to LHR and showing that your now filling one route sure is genius.
If you had an option to go SIN or PER to LHR from MEL and it was still full from PER then I would truly pronounce the game changed.



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Old 20th Aug 2018, 05:39
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There is the qf37 if you want to go via Singapore. That would be a 90 minute transit. Iím not sure it goes every day though. But I take your point about First.

edit: it does go daily
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 11:48
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Not a 380 and no P
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 13:25
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By removing a 500 seat aircraft and going to a 236 seater you donít need to be a genuis to work out they are going to fill the replacement from both MEL/PER to LHR
I think the point of this last bit of discussion is that QF are taking what is more than likely a profitable load factor (75%+, with break even normally equating to 60-65%), out of and into Perth, with Melbourne just making up the numbers (which get it to the 80s and 90s). Given this, Melbourne pax DO seem to largely be flying another way. Either QF through SIN or other Airlines. (Also, Was the 500 seater always full/profitable, if not, then what?).

QF could probably have another machine running Melboure - Singas- London and still do ok with all of them. It certainly looks as though they could use the extra capacity. Iíd wonder how much is being lost not providing this. Project Sunrise is a long way off coming to fruition yet, might it be wise to corner a bigger slice of the Melbourne market in the mean time?
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 14:41
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Originally Posted by maggot View Post
Not a 380 and no P
Itís always chockers when operated it though. Normally 60-70 connectors to the QF1.
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 23:18
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Originally Posted by Keg View Post


Itís always chockers when operated it though. Normally 60-70 connectors to the QF1.
Yeah was empty prior to the change... Long assed flight for that time of day
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 09:16
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Qantas now reporting this service as their most profitable route.

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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 09:50
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Really? I read that it was the highest rated by passengers but I didnít see mention of it being the most profitable.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 10:56
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It was mentioned in the Q&A segment of today’s results presentation that load factor on Perth London was over 90%.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 15:17
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Have done the QF9 MEL - PER domestic sector twice now. The economy seats are extremely uncomfortable. No way could I sit in one for 17 hours.. Four hours was enough.
Just did 5 hours SIA Singapore - Perth , economy in the 787. Totally different comfort factor. Easy on the backside.
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Old 25th Aug 2018, 00:42
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Qantas management must be pretty happy with the results of their latest foray into ULH - AvWeek says they are looking expanding their ULH fleet with either 777-8X or a long range version of the A350.
Qantas Says OEMs Can Meet Ultra-Long-Range Requirement Commercial Aviation content from Aviation Week
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 10:44
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Will all the ULH be foreign crewed from now on? Good way to boost the profits.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 11:02
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Will all the ULH be foreign crewed from now on? Good way to boost the profits.
You mean cabin crew? Probably.
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