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Old 16th May 2023, 00:49
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There will never be a guarantee of upgrade time, however, given the experience levels of new hires at the moment, they’ll be a long time in the RHS.

6-12 month commands in the regionals are not unheard of for those joining with experience, but only because they were “the most senior applicant with a valid bid”.

As the current Captains move onto Jet and the Senior FO’s replace them there will certainly be a shortage of FO’s meeting the experience requirements to upgrade thus commands will go below them.
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Old 16th May 2023, 03:16
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Originally Posted by KiwiAvi8er
Year 2 Capt (blended) - $114,599. Increased by approx 4.5k each year step until Year 11 - $155,703. These numbers will increase each year with CPI but capped at 4.25%.

Direct entry ATR captains are highly unlikely at this stage, you’ll go to the bottom of the seniority list. It does sound like the pool of ATR F/O’s with close to the hour requirements to take a command are starting to dwindle so you might be able to take one pretty quickly.
Thanks KiwiAci! Transferring when FO seems better then.
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Old 16th May 2023, 03:19
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Originally Posted by ElZilcho
There will never be a guarantee of upgrade time, however, given the experience levels of new hires at the moment, they’ll be a long time in the RHS.

6-12 month commands in the regionals are not unheard of for those joining with experience, but only because they were “the most senior applicant with a valid bid”.

As the current Captains move onto Jet and the Senior FO’s replace them there will certainly be a shortage of FO’s meeting the experience requirements to upgrade thus commands will go below them.
Noted, if you know, may I please ask how's the typical roster pattern and daily flight duty? Like flying 4 or 6 legs a day. Any layover?
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Old 16th May 2023, 03:37
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Originally Posted by Massey058
To add to that, the latest numbers:

Year 1 FO 65,802
Year 4 FO 77,471
Year 1 CA 110,033
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Noted, if you know, may I please ask how's the typical roster pattern and daily flight duty? Like flying 4 or 6 legs a day. Any layover?
I left the Links a long time ago so no doubt someone else can answer that better than I can, however 4 Sector days are probably the norm, but you could do 6. Layovers would likely vary by base.

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Old 16th May 2023, 11:33
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I left the Links a long time ago so no doubt someone else can answer that better than I can, however 4 Sector days are probably the norm, but you could do 6. Layovers would likely vary by base.
I guessed so. By looking at radar 24, it seems their average block is about 1.4 hours. How would you rate your job satisfaction in NZ link back then, roster, salary, etc.
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Old 16th May 2023, 18:56
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I guessed so. By looking at radar 24, it seems their average block is about 1.4 hours. How would you rate your job satisfaction in NZ link back then, roster, salary, etc.
Probably not a fair comparison if I’m being honest.

Back in my day there were 3 Link operators who were rather independent of one another and only partially owned by big brother.

There was no blended contract or joint seniority so moving between them meant resigning from one and joining the bottom of another, usually people only moved to join Cook if they were a local as they paid the best and only had a Christchurch base.

Pay varied from lousy to decent depending on which company you worked for, as did the rosters.
6 Sector days were common at Eagle while Cook was rather cruisy having a single base with longer sectors.

Much has improved over the years, especially with Eagle being retired.

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Originally Posted by ElZilcho
Probably not a fair comparison if I’m being honest.

Back in my day there were 3 Link operators who were rather independent of one another and only partially owned by big brother.

There was no blended contract or joint seniority so moving between them meant resigning from one and joining the bottom of another, usually people only moved to join Cook if they were a local as they paid the best and only had a Christchurch base.

Pay varied from lousy to decent depending on which company you worked for, as did the rosters.
6 Sector days were common at Eagle while Cook was rather cruisy having a single base with longer sectors.

Much has improved over the years, especially with Eagle being retired.
Appreciate sharing your experience. Now I understand why it's called link. When researched about NZ and looking at the history, I guessed they were called link but now operate as one big company NZ. In your opinion, do you think ATR is the most suitable for those routes in NZ, or they might consider switching to Q400 or small jet like ERJ? in the future?
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Originally Posted by AT76
Appreciate sharing your experience. Now I understand why it's called link. When researched about NZ and looking at the history, I guessed they were called link but now operate as one big company NZ. In your opinion, do you think ATR is the most suitable for those routes in NZ, or they might consider switching to Q400 or small jet like ERJ? in the future?
Q400 wouldn’t fit into several of the regional ports so the Q300 will likely keep operating until it falls apart.
ATR is incredibly efficient at what it does so I believe it’ll be around for a long time.

Can’t see us ever operating RJ’s because of the average Sector (and runway length), I’m sure it’s been looked at but could only work on few routes thus wouldn’t be cost effective introducing a new type. At best, we’ll see the A320’s into some of the larger ports like Hamilton or Palmy if they want to boost capacity.
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