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JETGO Airlines to launch Brisbane-Karratha-Singapore services

Old 15th Dec 2017, 11:20
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Yes my gut feel is that this has disaster written all over it. I think that Silkair opted out because it isnít viable with a larger aircraft and look at all the connections they would have onto SQ. I imagine Jetgo wonít have much in the way of connections in Singapore. Councils stumping up a lot of generous incentives to get it off the ground no doubt but will be tough to make it work. As someone else mentioned QF only ran a weekly 738 and that was in the height of the boom.
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Old 15th Dec 2017, 12:36
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Qantas actually did tuesday and wednesday direct Brisbane. Monday was Melbourne and thursday was Sydney direct.

Port Hedland still gets a Brisbane flight on tuesday from Qantas so there must be some demand.
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Old 15th Dec 2017, 23:00
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Originally Posted by LostProperty View Post
I'm totally sure they couldn't sell BNE- SIN as an RPT operation but if money can be made flying KTA to SIN you still gotta get the plane to KTA and while there may well be a lot of potential demand from BNE based FIFOs the fact is their employers fly most of them to the Pilbara via Perth. There is potential demand for lots of new regional air services in Oz but most of them don't stack up economically unless there are government or industry subsidies in the mix.
Have you guys ever lived/worked in the pilbara? Thereís a lot of contractors in the Newman/port headland and karratha area that would happily use a direct service.

Yes a lot of FIFO workers go via Perth because thatís what BHP and Rio do for their workers. Equally there are contractors that have free accommodation in the pilbara while theyíre there, but have to sort out there own way home. Thereís lots of them living in Asia.
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Old 16th Dec 2017, 09:39
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The council's been throwing money around trying to get an international service for their over the top terminal they spent $30m on before pax numbers dropped by 50%. i believe the incentives also include covering the cost of the ground handling. So, fair to say the risk will be shared fairly evenly and won't be all on Jetgo. If they got a contract between KTA and BNE might help to cover the costs of running a half or 2/3 empty aeroplane up to SIN.

It's going to rely on locals to use it as I can't see many Singaporeans wanting to start their holiday in K-town

According to the Mayor they did a survey and hundreds of people want it. getting their bums on seats vs going via PER will be a different matter entirely.
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Old 13th Feb 2018, 03:51
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Bump. Any progress?

I did hear that they are considering E190 rather than E175. Maybe ex VA?
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Old 13th Feb 2018, 04:05
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Icarus, I think the E190 that's in Clark is headed to Jetgo. Makes sense to me, if you're going to have the expense of the E190, you may as well have the capacity and range of the E190.
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Old 13th Feb 2018, 05:04
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VH-ZPH ex VA will be going to Jetgo
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Old 15th Feb 2018, 03:12
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Well good news for them I guess. Local airframes available makes life easier. Does anyone know much about the owners?
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Old 15th Feb 2018, 05:24
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To my knowledge the 190 wa the only ejet certified for etops, so would have to have a look at the routing to see if brisbane karratha can be done none edto.

I assume karratha to singapore should be ok..

YBBN to Karratha is not an ETOPS flight, nor is onwards to WSSS, with a track near WADD. In fact, they can go on more or less to the CAN/USA via UK, Iceland, Greenland etc without being ETOPS. ETOPS can be helpful though, but it is not necessary everywhere, and on occasions it is not even desirable.
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Old 15th Feb 2018, 06:52
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http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=YBBN-YPKA&DU=mi&E=60

Does this help?
Based on 60 minutes.

Add the 15 minute allowance for 75 mins and there appears to be a small area shown.
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Old 15th Feb 2018, 07:38
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C'mon iccy you can do better than that. What about Isa and Longreach?
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Old 15th Feb 2018, 08:36
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Yes, seems a bit odd.
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Old 15th Feb 2018, 12:02
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There would be a number of FIFOs living in Bali, perhaps flying to and from there instead of Perth would be an option. Mining companies could offer 6/2 with a trip straight to WADD doing away with the need to overnight in Perth and buy a ticket on AirAsia.
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 03:23
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What does that have to do with Brisbane - Karratha - Singapore?

Aren't there flights from Port Hedland to Bali now?
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 06:47
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That it will launch will be a miracle. And that will only be because the City of Karratha (with the unfortunate acronym CoK) will be underwriting it. Be interesting to see who uses it.
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 06:49
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 08:09
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How quickly we forget one's roots!
That's what the Transport Minister said...
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Old 19th Feb 2018, 05:52
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Be interesting to see who uses it.
I guess anyone in the Karratha catchment area who is sick of flying two hours down to Perth on an expensive domestic flight to then fly back past KTA to SE Asia. The other choice would be Darwin.

I think it may work. Silkair were scheduled to try it but pulled out. Probably too risky for them as they can deploy elsewhere on a sure thing.
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Old 19th Feb 2018, 08:51
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But if the destination is Bali, the most popular destination in SE Asia, they're flying 2.5 hours past DPS to fly back.
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Old 19th Feb 2018, 11:25
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the most popular destination in SE Asia,
That is a big call. I guess you meant "...in SE Asia for West Australians"?

The most-visited destinations by Australians in 2015 (based on ABS data to October)

New Zealand
Indonesia (my edit: I guess Bali?)
USA
UK
Thailand
China
Singapore
Fiji
Japan
India
Not much of a shock if people decide to fly two hours North to Thailand which is number five on the list but the second most popular in SE Asia.

https://auspost.com.au/travel-essent...ralians-travel

3401.0 - Overseas Arrivals and Departures, Australia, Dec 2016
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