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Old 19th Oct 2017, 21:46
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Maybe there's some hope for MH370

From the ABC News Australia's web site this morning .

" US company says it will find MH370 in new search, or cost is free

The Malaysian Government confirms it has chosen US company Ocean Infinity to begin a new search for MH370 after the seabed exploration company offered to look for the missing aircraft on a no-find, no-fee basis."

This does sound promising and they are quite a successful group so lets hope they find MH370.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 23:28
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It is good news as we really need some form of closure on this accident. Whilst we may never be able to learn what caused this tragic accident, I am addiment that the final resting place for MH370 will be located.
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Maybe there's some hope for MH370
There is no hope for MH370...
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Yes there is TBM-Legend !!

We hope they can find it and i'm sure all of the relatives desperately hope they do so they can have some closure. I hope you understand that hope is all they have left.
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Its a modern day aviation version of the Titanic with a little bit of Inspector Morse

The whole MH 370 story from the "who, what, why" is peppered with non-normal procedures and speculation. The "where" has similarly been a meandering story that often has been three steps behind conventional logic.

Given the shipping locations on 8 March 2014 atop the Zenith Plateau and the well defined unique drift patterns along the seventh arc, it will be one thing to locate the fuselage; but the depth of the sea floor will make it almost impossible to recover.

The gaps in the story still remain the delay in ATC handover, MAS's advice and coordinates that put the plane in Cambodia and the bizarre circumstance where a large aircraft with no ident tracks almost directly over a military radar base, but despite not being identified, it is regarded by the radar operator as not being a risk and nil action is taken to investigate - even though the Malaysian Defence Minister, a week later confirmed the Malaysian military were notified of the loss of ID and ATC handover.

Another quirk is the solo fishing vessel that sailed at speed tracking precisely along the seventh arc and then suddenly stopped and circled for almost a day before departing ahead of an approaching cyclone.

Notwithstanding, finding the fuselage is a responsibility the whole world has to locate the aircraft remains and, if possible, properly investigate the causal factors.

We do need to remember that it is in international waters and; with 239 (presumed)deaths it is (until proven otherwise) regarded as a crime scene. I trust the 'no find-no fee' deal does not presume media, salvage or other exclusive rights.

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Its a modern day aviation version of the Titanic
Except they knew what happened to the Titanic, where it sank and there were survivors.

Other than that, yeah, it's identical...
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I have held the view for a very long time now that there are 'certain authorities' who do not ever want MH370 found!

Fellow Ppruners are invited to form their own opinions as to why.
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Old 20th Oct 2017, 10:10
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'certain authorities' who do not ever want MH370 found
I still believe my own original theory that MH370 hit a US drone that wasn't supposed to be there, and the 'mericans said "look over there" while they picked up all the pieces.

MH370 will turn up eventually for all the "right" reasons and in the so called "right" place as any "hope" real or imagined will suffice as much bigger problems were prevented from developing.

Let it be, and RIP to all those souls onboard.
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My old man once said to me hope is a dangerous thing to live on cos if it doesn't eventuate you are left worse off than what you would have been if you had accepted the loss at the time.
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We hope they can find it and i'm sure all of the relatives desperately hope they do so they can have some closure. I hope you understand that hope is all they have left.
Millions missing in war. Three great uncles with no known graves or hard info on exactly where and how they perished. Where's Amelia Erhardt also?

As Troppo said we must move on.
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Old 21st Oct 2017, 09:28
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Don’t agree with the must move on.

MH370 far too many unanswered questions.

Radar technology, over the horizon radar, etc. I still wonder how a 777 could have flown trough any control zone and not replied and then not be tracked. It just doesn’t add up.

As for Amelia reading the efforts from the people on here let’s hope they are eventually found. Completely different scenarios though and cannot be compared looking at technology alone!
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"I still wonder how a 777 could have flown trough any control zone" if we're talking Indonesia or Malaysia the answer is pretty simple....................
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Old 21st Oct 2017, 22:24
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I still wonder how a 777 could have flown trough any control zone and not replied and then not be tracked.

It was tracked on Malaysian air defence radar along the Thai border area but only as a skin paint with no SSR. There are no radar sites west of Malaysia or Indonesia in the Andaman Sea and Indian Ocean areas.
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Originally Posted by airtags
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We do need to remember that it is in international waters and; with 239 (presumed)deaths it is (until proven otherwise) regarded as a crime scene. I trust the 'no find-no fee' deal does not presume media, salvage or other exclusive rights.

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And in which jurisdiction would that be?
As far as I know, maritime law does give salvage rights, unless proscribed by local law.
And there is no local law out there.

Any experts out there with more specific knowledge?
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An interesting article about the ship:

https://www.economist.com/news/scien...ntastical-ship
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The Seabed Constructor left Durban about 12 hours ago and will be doing some testing en-route to Perth.
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God speed.
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