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Old 11th Oct 2017, 04:03   #1 (permalink)
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Emirates Cans A380 Tasman Flights to Auckland

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11931831
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Old 11th Oct 2017, 05:23   #2 (permalink)
 
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The end of JetConnect?

QF mainline have already picked up the capacity with A330’s on SYD-AKL, assuming the same happens with BNE/MEL, how many sectors will remain on the 738’s and where’s the cost benefit of a subsidiary doing them? Not to mention, J* could pickup a few more.

Few friends at JC are rather nervous at the moment and eyeing up China before getting pushed.
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i wouldn't be too concerned just yet. Yes, two 737's are coming home but where are the crew to fly them?

Probably a different story in a few years. My understanding is, whilst the aircraft are utilised well, there is a real lack of flexibility with the airframes. Ideally, the aircraft should arrive from NZ and go somewhere domestically apparently.
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Fares could rise after Emirates cans A380 superjumbo flights from Auckland to Australia

Fares could rise after Emirates cans A380 superjumbo flights from Auckland to Australia - NZ Herald
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i wouldn't be too concerned just yet. Yes, two 737's are coming home but where are the crew to fly them?

Probably a different story in a few years. My understanding is, whilst the aircraft are utilised well, there is a real lack of flexibility with the airframes. Ideally, the aircraft should arrive from NZ and go somewhere domestically apparently.
Where did you hear 2 more 737's are going back to mainline? Internal memo?
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Where did you hear 2 more 737's are going back to mainline? Internal memo?
Not sure about "2 more" but 2 have been earmarked to return to QF for a few months now.
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What a joke this is, where’s the aircraft and crews to pick this up coming from? They are going to train Captains on the 747 now. It’s chaos on a day to day basis, the more they flog the crews the higher the sick leave and short notice resignations.
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M Rats is very short of pilots so they are cutting sectors wherever possible to get the best utilisation of their remaining crews. This is a fairly obvious decision, I'm just surprised that QF has the aircraft and crews to replace the trans Tasman capacity as Qants is short of both at present.
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Perhaps in the short term, it's going to be a real struggle due to crewing. In the longer term however, more sectors should mean more jobs... more commands, possibly more Aircraft?

Probably worth 6-12 months of crappy rosters? Big picture and all.
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Perhaps in the short term, it's going to be a real struggle due to crewing. In the longer term however, more sectors should mean more jobs... more commands, possibly more Aircraft?

Probably worth 6-12 months of crappy rosters? Big picture and all.
Isn't there a thread running about some shortage of pilots?

Interesting to see this rather curious effect. EK short and QF being flogged..... not unique. That is a lot of seats to replace over the ditch.
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Rumour of the fix; QF mainline base in Auckland consisting of two 330's and nine 738's.
VH regos all around.
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Old 11th Oct 2017, 09:25   #13 (permalink)
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Probably worth 6-12 months of crappy rosters?
Training will be flat out at least until 787 #8 turns up in a December next year. Heaven help us if we bring any additional airframes into FY18/19.

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Big picture and all.
Agreed. It's tough going at the moment buts it's a much nicer place to be than where we actually were just two years ago when the last of the demoted 767 crew were just checking out and the A380 F/Os were being RIN'd. What short sighted stupidity that turned out to be!
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Short sighted? None are as blind as those who are unwilling to see (outside the plan, KPI segmentation and the spend money to save money restructuring)
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Yep never waste a crisis, even a fabricated one.
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Training will be flat out at least until 787 #8 turns up in a December next year. Heaven help us if we bring any additional airframes into FY18/19.

The additional airframes will be the 747 fleet remaining at 10 till late 2019 instead of 7 by late 2018.
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Another thread taken over by whinging Quantarse pilots banging on about T&Cs and your precious little 787 that the majority of us couldn’t give two hoots about.. Whinge Whinge Whinge.... You lot are worse than my multiple ex wives mother-in-laws all put together!

Well don’t open the thread if you don’t want to read about QF.....No problem...Point Taken...Hold on a minute...I’m in a Emirates thread right?
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Nasty!
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I guess the fact that another airline is taking up the Emirates Tasman flying (apparently exclusively) mentioned in the title of this thread is an irrelevant point of discussion.

Fair enough. After all who remembers who lost (say) the AFL Grand Final. Why should we? Apparently only one team was playing if you read the headlines.
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