Fake management at JQHQ
Nunc est bibendum
I can list a half dozen pilots in the legacy carrier who have pulled the pin either before or during a tour of duty due fatigue within the last six months. I can probaly list a few more who have refused to extend tours of duty. Action taken against them? Nil.
Keg and others,
I can think of plenty of occasions when I and others both Captains and FO's have called fatigued without any reprurcssions either. As was pointed out earlier GS is not in a position to place sanctions on those that do.
But I am now going to respectfully leave this discussion because if it's just going to be a JQ versus QF pie fight:
A) I'm unqualified to engage the debate objectively because I've not seen both airlines from within.
B) From here on in I think it's just going to be character assassination and it serves nobody any purpose. I have a good life and I'm heading back to it.
I can think of plenty of occasions when I and others both Captains and FO's have called fatigued without any reprurcssions either. As was pointed out earlier GS is not in a position to place sanctions on those that do.
But I am now going to respectfully leave this discussion because if it's just going to be a JQ versus QF pie fight:
A) I'm unqualified to engage the debate objectively because I've not seen both airlines from within.
B) From here on in I think it's just going to be character assassination and it serves nobody any purpose. I have a good life and I'm heading back to it.
Keg with all due respect if you are referring to widebody ops then its apples and oranges with regards to J* NB operations. I have flown under the exemption with two different airlines, a legacy and LCC. Operating to the Exemption under the legacy carrier had zero impact on time away from work. The rostering at J* is legal, but as someone else pointed out, it disregards a lot of assumptions that were originally considered common sense. Assumptions such as minimum rest times for an overnight should be different for those at home base. There was no specific requirement for sign-on and sign-off to not be in the same calendar day as it would be assumed that was not going to be rostered.
Fortunately the current exemption has restrictions on late night operations which actually works in the pilot's favour.
Wear the Foxhat has summed up the situation nicely.
Fortunately the current exemption has restrictions on late night operations which actually works in the pilot's favour.
Wear the Foxhat has summed up the situation nicely.
Nunc est bibendum
Sure. I agree with both sentiments. I certainly didn't intend for this to become a QF v jQ comparison. Simply wanted to hilgjith that if you're tired, you can say 'no'. Perhaps the lesson for me is to not post after an all nighter. 
