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Old 25th Feb 2017, 17:10
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Originally Posted by Ken Borough
You can say that again but he also had a lot of fellow travellers. And the revolving doors continued during Dixon's tenure as CEO. The number and quality people who came and went during their tenure in office was breathtaking. They were not happy days for those who belonged to the Red Team The goings-on would make an extraordinarily interesting read but I suspect that the current laws of libel would preclude its publication.
Yes, definitely... I used to give Dixon a minor pass for the fact he apparently told Strong he would walk if he changed the name and the livery because it was 'the best thing you have and you can't see it' (allegedly). I also liked Dixon for getting rid of someone who had their job saved by Strong after doing something that caused untold harm to the company reputation and destruction of property via a 'prank' - Dixon was (once again allegedly) livid by the fact the person concerned had their job saved by JS. That person did not last a nano-second when Dixon took over. But, I also cannot forgive him for what you say and for nearly bringing on the death of the airline with the APA sell out. I can't say more than that but you'd be flabbergasted if you knew the event in question and even more astounded if I expanded on it because I knew the person who carried out the prank from a previous department.

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Old 27th Feb 2017, 13:48
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A long over due action but, still playing 'catch up' with competitors.
Most first rate Airlines got rid of 74-300s some 20 years ago and the 400s 10 years ago. Those with their eyes on the ball were introducing 787s 3-4 years ago. QE2 was a nice ship but, you wouldn't travel in her today.
Also think that someone's 'perspective ' is that from life inside a a bubble protected by the government dollar.
Surely QF didn't take part in any protectionism in its history, it is beyond reproach ( lol).
QF has been milking the traveling public since its inception while being protected by the government . High priced fares on beat up , old planes and second rate service at best.
If QF 'has' to make a profit then why did grounding the company and dropping something like 900 mil not ruffle any Leprechaun feathers? QF has had its time and Instead of taking care of business , the man at the helm prefers to do deals with airlines that will only make the poor QF product stick out like a sore thumb and dress pilots like Busby Berkely chorus boys while front line staff are allowed to act like the entitled few who have no idea who pay their high salaries. His only strategic action is to expand J* , to take over as QF shrinks. That's a group tactic and is actually damaging QF ( the airline), probably intentionally .You probably guessed, I don't fly QF and 787s won't change that because the price will still be high and the service second rate at best. Don't particularly like ME or Asian carriers but, the prices are better, planes newer, service level is something that QF can not even aspire to . If the total 787 purchase is 8 units, those living in the sheltered workshop may be surprised to hear that some airlines are picking up 8 or more Boeing units alone , each year.
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Old 27th Feb 2017, 14:13
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A long over due action but, still playing 'catch up' with competitors.
Most first rate Airlines got rid of 74-300s some 20 years ago and the 400s 10 years ago. Those with their eyes on the ball were introducing 787s 3-4 years ago. QE2 was a nice ship but, you wouldn't travel in her today.
Also think that someone's 'perspective ' is that from life inside a a bubble protected by the government dollar.
Surely QF didn't take part in any protectionism in its history, it is beyond reproach ( lol).
QF has been milking the traveling public since its inception while being protected by the government . High priced fares on beat up , old planes and second rate service at best.
If QF 'has' to make a profit then why did grounding the company and dropping something like 900 mil not ruffle any Leprechaun feathers? QF has had its time and Instead of taking care of business , the man at the helm prefers to do deals with airlines that will only make the poor QF product stick out like a sore thumb and dress pilots like Busby Berkely chorus boys while front line staff are allowed to act like the entitled few who have no idea who pay their high salaries. His only strategic action is to expand J* , to take over as QF shrinks. That's a group tactic and is actually damaging QF ( the airline), probably intentionally .You probably guessed, I don't fly QF and 787s won't change that because the price will still be high and the service second rate at best. Don't particularly like ME or Asian carriers but, the prices are better, planes newer, service level is something that QF can not even aspire to . If the total 787 purchase is 8 units, those living in the sheltered workshop may be surprised to hear that some airlines are picking up 8 or more Boeing units alone , each year.
8 a year? Oh gosh really i am surprised
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Old 28th Feb 2017, 03:59
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I think perhaps your view is a little outdated.

Jetstar appears to have stagnated, if you look at growth within both the domestic and international airlines in Australia. Granted there still is some organic growth in the other airlines particularly Japan.

There are no more 787 for Jetstar, and rumours stated here that a few could go to mainline. ( for the record I don't believe that one one bit) Mainline has returned to Tokyo from Melb and brissy, Perth London, Sydney shanghai.

It's not a lot but it is something. I've said it before and I'll do so again, There is no ambition inside Qantas to grow anything much now greater than say 3% a year give or take, they saw a opportunity to establish themselves in the low cost market. That has happened now it's just maximise profit , not maximise market share.

You saw it in the last 10 years during the " financial crises1/2 etc" Qantas doesn't have he backing to survive more than a few years of significant losses.

A smaller nimble operation where you can move capacity to various markets as you need, and have a percentage of your fleet that can be removed quickly and cheaply is unfortunately the reality. The rest is just about filling code share aircraft.

I've not heard anyone mention anything about Australian Jobs in years
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Old 28th Feb 2017, 08:35
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What a load of tripe you all post , the "good old days "when every year management , if you could call them that , went to Canberra , with cap in hand to be bailed out by the taxpayer. Money put into incompetent fools running an airline , rather than Hospitals and Schools. Give me a break , hands of 8ocks on with socks
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