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Qantas' broken and overworked A380 fleet

Old 14th Jan 2017, 18:32
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Originally Posted by neville_nobody View Post
On a long haul flight there may not be room and to be fair I think asking people to sit in a jumpseat on a 13+ hours flight is probably stretching the friendship.

On saying that though the senior management types see it below them to do such a thing.

Offered the jumpseat twice on domestic sectors to executive types once on a horror day huge delays across all airlines, both times they refused, blocking a seat for a full fare paying passenger.

When it's days like that you see senior management types true colours. Duty Travel staff paxing in jumpseats to give their seats to full fare passengers, while these clowns sit in business leaving paying customer in the terminal and the flow on affect is one more hotel room that your airline will have to buy. Says it all really.
People in Ansett (in the past) and Air NZ have done this too in my experience so it's not just Qantas.
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Old 14th Jan 2017, 18:34
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Originally Posted by blow.n.gasket View Post
Me thinks your logic is a wee bit warped there NZKiwi, an almost angelic name to boot, I might add.
Duty travel tech crew are booked firm, no travelling public displaced!
Another thing ,no tech crew , no go , which is the only reason tech crew would displace paying passengers otherwise Alan and every other passenger would miss their party.
Plus it's contractually agreed upon, for techies to be up the pointy end vieing against all the management wunderkinds and fatigue issues might have something to do with the whole enchilada for tech crew as well.
That's right... was we used to say, it's better to inconvenience 1 pax instead of 400 wherever the TC is traveling to operate from.
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Old 14th Jan 2017, 18:36
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Originally Posted by Fatguyinalittlecoat View Post
If crew are "must go" for operational requirements, I don't see a problem. Otherwise more people with be disrupted.
Pilots and cabin crew keep QF operating. If they are booked duty travel and are "must go" (I'm sure people here can figure out what that means), then they SHOULD displace paying passengers, that's obvious. Management are never "must go". They are important, but are not operationally important.
However, again, nobody has verified that AJ was there. I know for a fact he has stayed behind in the past to allow Passengers to get home. Just seems too convenient for the lynch mob.
Unless there was a corporate, legal or operational reason for the Exec to be somewhere... e.g. meeting with FAA, CASA, etc. for whatever reason, testify before the Senate (subpoenas are issued for this and to not turn up is contempt of parliament, a very serious charge) but it's unlikely this was the case.
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Old 14th Jan 2017, 21:24
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Aerial, you need to go easy on the caffeine!
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Old 15th Jan 2017, 02:07
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there were still people around who presumably loved using consultants because there's someone to blame if it doesn't go well.
All that's needed to be said when it comes to "consultants".

Its not just about building a business. They're also there to take the blame when things go "pear shaped".

...and I thought this was common knowledge.
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Old 17th Jan 2017, 04:01
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom View Post
Aerial, you need to go easy on the caffeine!
Haha, I don't post that often but every now and then I do a sprint LOL
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Old 26th Jan 2017, 13:02
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Perhaps we will see additional 380's? Move to a 380/787 international fleet, with 747/767/330 retirement
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Old 26th Jan 2017, 19:39
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More 380's?!
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Old 27th Jan 2017, 01:42
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onehitwonder.

It is almost guaranteed the A380 with QF will be a one hit wonder.
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 01:49
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Qantas boss Alan Joyce opens hi-tech A380 service ?shed? in Los Angeles to make airline millions

Don't fear everyone, Mr Joyce is well ahead of the game in opening this excellent Heavy Maintenance Facility in the US...kind of like the one he closed in Avalon...that he said supposedly would be less and less viable in the future...hmmm...
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 02:24
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not sure, as SLF would rather be in an a380 compared to a 777/330/747.
much nicer ride in Y. even happy to pay a little more to be in the whale.

Originally Posted by B772 View Post
onehitwonder.

It is almost guaranteed the A380 with QF will be a one hit wonder.
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 07:40
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I just had this crazy dream

I had a dream that Qantas built a huge hangar in LAX to maintain the A380s (that don't need as much maintenance as older aeroplanes). Then the dream got really crazy. They intend to use the hangar to solicit maintenance business from other airlines.
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 07:47
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I don't fly Qantas. It is no longer an Australian airline. I hope Qantas gets exactly what it deserves from its LAX maintenance operation.

The operative phrase is : "Buy it and fly it". The A380 is going to have a short life and no resale value if it is maintained to "American" standards, but QF management will have departed with their bonuses by the time a new management has to contemplate a replacement.....

....And they will have no Australian maintenance capability or experience to guide them when that time comes.
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 08:42
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The A380 is going to have a short life and no resale value
Past tense is required, as they already have zero resale value. Possibly a different way to view is the "time-to-scrap", based on maintenance location. I don't think they really care to be honest, its a commercial dog to them.

Interestingly, it was put to me that the hanger also has the ability to fit 5x 787 at once...
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 22:08
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I don't fly Qantas. It is no longer an Australian airline
What Australian airline do you fly with Sunny?
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 22:35
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Anything but Qantas and its bastard child Jetstar....and not Tiger either.
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Old 28th Jan 2017, 23:07
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With two A380's on the ground there for around 15 hours every day, I would think that LAX was a logical place to do maintenance. But I guess logic isn't an attribute of a lot of posters on here.
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Old 29th Jan 2017, 02:07
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What amount of ground time do they average in Aus?
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Old 29th Jan 2017, 05:17
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What amount of ground time do they average in Aus?
Sydney varies but its never more than 2 hours, plus or minus a bit, during a transit in Melbourne.
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Old 29th Jan 2017, 05:53
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C441 - QF10 gets into MEL 2100ish and surely stays overnight.
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