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NZCAA rewrites Fatigue rules

Old 23rd Nov 2016, 07:01
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NZCAA rewrites Fatigue rules

Click on the link below to read the discussion document for new flight and duty time rules in NZ.

Fatigue Risk Management | Civil Aviation Authority of New Zealand

They are asking for feedback by Jan 17.
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Old 23rd Nov 2016, 10:37
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There needs to be 4 things considered
-flight time
-duty time
-standby time
-who has a duty to record these

At the moment, everything is governed through an advisory circular and something needs to be enshrined in the rules. 125.805 type get out of jail cards should be done away with
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Old 23rd Nov 2016, 19:14
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One thing that is never mentioned when the CAA talks about letting the Airlines manage it themselves with an FMS is that the people ( individuals) applying for, designing, and over-seeing the FRMS do not have the same motivation as the people who are effected by fatigue. In that I mean their KPI's are maximised by creating the most fatiguing rosters possible. The fact that they get paid more if their operational staff are worked hard is talked around, not openly acknowledged. With this in mind, hard and fast limits will always be necessary if there is to be any improvement. That is why I think that an option to govern solely through an FRMS is flawed.
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Old 26th Nov 2016, 23:37
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KPI Nonsense.

In that I mean their KPI's are maximised by creating the most fatiguing rosters possible.
KPI's generated by these kind of flunkies should be treated for what they are.

Pressure needs to be brought to bear on the creators to expose that their methods are purely for personal gain, at the expense of those who may have to work those rosters, and the subsequent potential risk to the operator if any so called black swan event was to occur.

Blue sky up guys. Regards, Big E.
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Old 27th Nov 2016, 00:31
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Pressure needs to be brought to bear on the creators to expose that their methods are purely for personal gain, at the expense of those who may have to work those rosters, and the subsequent potential risk to the operator if any so called black swan event was to occur.
The problem with this is that the 'creators' or 'implementers' of such programs will immediately respond that it is/was the pilot's responsibility to call fatigue if they are/were fatigued. Therefore any event is once again blamed on the pilot - the criminally negligent pilot...

The problem keeps going round and round in circles. However, with the way legislation is going it seems more and more liability is being lumped on the pilot and less and less of that burden being able to be legallly placed on the 'roster perpetrators.' The scales are rigged, and not in favour of pilots.
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Old 27th Nov 2016, 04:48
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The problem with this is that the 'creators' or 'implementers'
You mean 'innovators'
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