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Old 13th Aug 2016, 13:09
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PERTH/ATHENS $369

MEL-SYD-OOL/ATH $419

from June to October 2017 with Scoot on a B787.

Fantastic lead in fares that will shake up an already distressed market to Europe.

No bags or food but based on those costs to SIN fron OZ ports won't add much probably $100.
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Old 13th Aug 2016, 13:18
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The world is going mad! Surely these fares are less than the cost of production? Aside from that, I think one would need to be paid that much to travel SIN/ATH with a LCC jammed into a 9 abreast 787.
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Old 13th Aug 2016, 13:25
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The world is going mad! Surely these fares are less than the cost of production? Aside from that, I think one would need to be paid that much to travel SIN/ATH with a LCC jammed into a 9 abreast 787.
Scoot are fine. Who knows how .many seats at those prices.

Might effect so.me carriers to Europe who are already cutting flights. +AFAIK no one flies SIN/ATH direct or nonstop anymore. Many will fly to ATH & then onto other parts of Europe with other lcc s.

Scootbiz fares just over $1000.

Wonder wbat connections at SIN like. Could not see any schedule anywhere on Scoot site.

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Old 13th Aug 2016, 13:55
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Good value if it is a return fare?

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Old 13th Aug 2016, 23:14
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Scoot are fine. .....uh...no they are not fine.....flew them once on a super cheap introductory fare.....I've not been back, and will not be back....
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Old 14th Aug 2016, 02:18
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it's one way (not 1/2 a return fare, as many websites advertise).

Have flown Scoot a few times & very little difference from Legacy carriers. Don't know what fliegenmong is on about.
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Old 14th Aug 2016, 04:46
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I flew with Scoot Airlines on a flight to East Coast Australia, my seat would not Lock in the upright position, I was REFUSED another seat on a B787. I complained in writing to the airline, and never received a reply.

I can not right here my opinion of them as it would be to foul.

Anyway, live and learn !!!!!!
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Old 14th Aug 2016, 07:14
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Originally Posted by Ejector View Post
I flew with Scoot Airlines on a flight to East Coast Australia, my seat would not Lock in the upright position, I was REFUSED another seat on a B787. I complained in writing to the airline, and never received a reply.

I can not right here my opinion of them as it would be to foul.

Anyway, live and learn !!!!!!
huh ? You could have just moved seats or was flight full ?
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Old 14th Aug 2016, 07:27
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huh ? You could have just moved seats or was flight full ?
It doesn't matter!
If the seat cannot be locked in the upright position for takeoff and landing, then it is unserviceable and must not be used.
Simple as that!
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Old 15th Aug 2016, 03:07
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The plane was full and the Cabin Crew extremely clearly refused my request to change seats. I did use the word "UN-Serviceable".

This was in Singapore on the way to Gold Coast this year.

Sure you can say it was a incompetent Cabin Crew, but the airline refused to reply as well, total GONG SHOW, and Scoot, feel free to sue me, I would love to testify.
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Old 15th Aug 2016, 05:21
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Originally Posted by Ejector View Post
The plane was full and the Cabin Crew extremely clearly refused my request to change seats. I did use the word "UN-Serviceable".

This was in Singapore on the way to Gold Coast this year.

Sure you can say it was a incompetent Cabin Crew, but the airline refused to reply as well, total GONG SHOW, and Scoot, feel free to sue me, I would love to testify.
if flight full, you should have shut up or you may have been offloaded. How can you change seats if flight is full ? (full means 100%)
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Old 15th Aug 2016, 05:33
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Gee that engine has flames pouring out the back of it but best keep quiet in case we get offloaded.

F$7k me! The seat is unserviceable for a reason, it doesn't meet the crashworthiness requirements for the person sitting in the seat or for the person sitting in the seat directly behind. If the seat is permanently reclined and the aircraft does a reject or heaven forbid crashes, the poor prick in the seat is going to get folded in two as the seat back comes forward at a kazillion miles an hour, and the person behind is going to have their head caved in as it hits the seat in front.

I cannot believe you think this is ok 320?
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Old 15th Aug 2016, 06:22
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Gee that engine has flames pouring out the back of it but best keep quiet in case we get offloaded.

F$7k me! The seat is unserviceable for a reason, it doesn't meet the crashworthiness requirements for the person sitting in the seat or for the person sitting in the seat directly behind. If the seat is permanently reclined and the aircraft does a reject or heaven forbid crashes, the poor prick in the seat is going to get folded in two as the seat back comes forward at a kazillion miles an hour, and the person behind is going to have their head caved in as it hits the seat in front.

I cannot believe you think this is ok 320?
didn't say it was ok, but he's trying to bag Scoot cos they didn't find him another seat, when flight was full. If he'd made a fuss about it, he would have been offloaded.


Anyway, get back on topic.


Many backpackers types & bargain hunters(more of these now than ever) will take advantage of these types of fares. If I was young enough to get a UK work visa, I'd go to Greece, swan around for as long as could afford & then get to UK on some cheap airfare from Greece. It will hurt many airlines who are struggling right now. Another nail in the coffin or straw that breaks the camels back.
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Old 15th Aug 2016, 06:33
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That flight departed with an unserviceable aeroplane. They SHOULD have delayed the flight and fixed the seat or made alternative arrangements for him, but to depart with him in a stuffed seat is unforgivable.

The MEL usually says lock seat in the upright position and depending on what has failed the seat may or may not be occupied, but it is NEVER ok to go with it (a) unresolved by fixing it or applying a MEL and (b) occupied when they know it is stuffed!

It would be interesting to see if the Capt knew because if he/she did what does that say about the safety culture of the organisation.

I know it is off topic, but frankly it is a big issue and if that is the culture of the airline even 369 bucks is too much to pay as they will try and kill you at some point

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Old 15th Aug 2016, 07:29
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Dude, don't waste your breath on him. You know what they say about arguing with idiots.
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Old 15th Aug 2016, 11:58
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I complained in writing to the airline, and never received a reply.
Contact the Singapore Tourism Board! (And if Scoot doesn't crawl back to you surprisingly soon afterwards, then you can use the Consumers Association of Singapore (CASE)).
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Old 15th Aug 2016, 12:13
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Well, meaning as a Qantas aircraft departed illegally without the required MEL item lately, will people be adding QF to their avoid lists? It's being investigated by the ATSB - it would seem that it is something more serious than a failed upright mechanism.
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Old 15th Aug 2016, 12:25
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Have flown Scoot a few times & very little difference from Legacy carriers. Don't know what fliegenmong is on about.

That doesn't bother me BNEA320....the AC was way too packed to be thought of as safe in terms of an emergency ...same as J*.....no way ever again!! Not only unsafe in terms of a very rare emergency.....way way too short on ammenity in terms of space...if I put my thumb on my forehead my outstrechted little finger touched the set in front.......

Dude, don't waste your breath on him. You know what they say about arguing with idiots.

Yeah...well.....
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Old 15th Aug 2016, 14:51
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Compare the fare to Emirates, their B777s have similar seat width, A380 much better. Food, entertainment and 30kgs baggage included. Work out if the extra comfort is worth the extra money.

Low costs generally have much cheaper one way fares than full service airlines which typically charge the same as an APEX return if only going one way.

Its simply another option available, if you don't like what's on offer shop around. One stop flights on that route and dates are coming in around the $2300 return mark with the ME 3.
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Old 15th Aug 2016, 14:57
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And people wonder why we direct people away from LCCs!

On the ones we have used the amount of damage control we have to go through when things go pear shaped is non recoverable in a financial sense and extremely difficult with call centres with English as a second language.

I personally wouldn't taxi with a lot of them, much lest fly with them.

Guess I am old school but too late to change now.

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