Qantas Results rumours
Were Cobham operating here 21years ago?
By the way, National jet systems is still the employer of the pilots and holds the AOc.
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Why would Qantas consider the A320 to replace 737? Take in account for new type ratings, maintenance training etc, I thought they wanted to reduce the number of the types.
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It would make sense to roll the 787-8s into the Qantas fleet along with the -9s arriving from next year. Let's face it, that's were they should have been in the first place to replace the 767s that are sorely missed domestically.
With the exception of HKT and HNL, I don't think there would be any routes the 787 does that couldn't be done with an A321. Why not make JQ entirely Airbus, CCQ 320/321 with all the associated efficiencies that brings. Increase the QF frequency to HNL and pick up HKT with the 330s in the short term then 787s.
Makes perfect sense. So of course will probably never happen.
Could somebody please explain to a dumb old fart why AJ would "purchase" Cobham airline operation ? He owns the routes, the check in staff, the ramp staff, the aircraft (or leases them), as far as I can tell the only thing he doesn't own is the tech crew, cabin crew, and engineers (ok, and the hangars in Adelaide but I'm pretty sure he already has 1 or 2 of those).
So what exactly would QF be buying ? Wait til the contract expires, say bye bye Cobham, and offer all the operational staff a job on Networks crappy conditions, voila !
So what exactly would QF be buying ? Wait til the contract expires, say bye bye Cobham, and offer all the operational staff a job on Networks crappy conditions, voila !
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Something to do with having 100 A320's on order and nowhere to put them perhaps! I imagine the claimed 4000nm range of the 321 Neo has piqued some interest as well....
With the exception of HKT and HNL, I don't think there would be any routes the 787 does that couldn't be done with an A321. Why not make JQ entirely Airbus, CCQ 320/321 with all the associated efficiencies that brings. Increase the QF frequency to HNL and pick up HKT with the 330s in the short term then 787s.
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Maybe Qantas' shareholders have finally realised what Bruce Buchanan tried to tell them years ago. That long haul low cost models don't work.
If you limit JQs destinations to range to the 4000NM range of an A321then the model works. Especially with the efficiencies you get from a common fleet.
As for any destination outside this range that you mention, give it to Qantas mainline. Qantas mainline has been gifting routes to JQ for years. About time QF got some back.
If you limit JQs destinations to range to the 4000NM range of an A321then the model works. Especially with the efficiencies you get from a common fleet.
As for any destination outside this range that you mention, give it to Qantas mainline. Qantas mainline has been gifting routes to JQ for years. About time QF got some back.
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Over a period of a couple of months last year I compared QF and JQ loads to HNL. It wasn't particularly scientific as it was simply using the staff travel website but given the methodology was the same from both some conclusions can be drawn.
On days where the other didn't operate, JQ flights averaged 75% load factor whilst Qantas was at 90%. On the days where both flights operated JQ dropped to 55% whilst Qantas dropped to 75%.
Right aeroplane, right route? Doesn't look like it to me.
On days where the other didn't operate, JQ flights averaged 75% load factor whilst Qantas was at 90%. On the days where both flights operated JQ dropped to 55% whilst Qantas dropped to 75%.
Right aeroplane, right route? Doesn't look like it to me.
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Jetstar International...Unprofitable
Jetstar Asia...Unprofitable
Jetstar Pacific...Unprofitable
Jetstar Japan...Unprofitable
Jetstar Kiwi...Unprofitable
Jetstar Asia...Unprofitable
Jetstar Pacific...Unprofitable
Jetstar Japan...Unprofitable
Jetstar Kiwi...Unprofitable
Based on the supplementary slides
Jetstar International...Profitable record result despite $23m volcano impacts - 11 787s
Jetstar Asia...Profitable - 18 A320s
Jetstar Pacific...Unprofitable (offfset by Asia/Japan) - 12 A320/321s
Jetstar Japan...Profitable 1st time - 20 A320s
Jetstar Kiwi...Commenced (guessing unprofitable )
I found the wording interesting. The press release states "170 in total, to the end of '19". Why so definitive?
The video press release seemed more open-ended.
I do agree that 170 still sounds like nowhere near enough.
The video press release seemed more open-ended.
I do agree that 170 still sounds like nowhere near enough.
If Jetstar International is making a profit, then why is Joyce considering transferring some of the B788's from his cherished love child to Qantas Domestic?
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Going Boeing,
Can you provide a source for that info? I know the original plan was for the 788s to go to Q when the 789s turned up.
wheels_down,
We can all suspect funny accounting, but that doesn't mean it's true. Do you have any proof? You certainly sound confident that it may be the case, & if so, you should really report it to the relevant authorities.
Can you provide a source for that info? I know the original plan was for the 788s to go to Q when the 789s turned up.
wheels_down,
We can all suspect funny accounting, but that doesn't mean it's true. Do you have any proof? You certainly sound confident that it may be the case, & if so, you should really report it to the relevant authorities.
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The rumour is 4 787-8's will be transferred to the QF side for domestic, to free up A330's for more international. The source comes from inside JQ. It's been around for while now, so I'll believe it when I see it.
The rumour is 4 787-8's will be transferred to the QF side for domestic, to free up A330's for more international. The source comes from inside JQ. It's been around for while now, so I'll believe it when I see it.