Air New Zealand Direct Entry FO A320
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Well Said
Post of the Week, Bunglerat.
In this game, especially in such a micro-sized local industry, career advancement and development opportunities and choices are unlike most other professions.
You only have to look at the overwhelming numbers of QF FOs who returned to the Mother Ship after a relatively over-worked, under-paid stint in the left seat at JQ.
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In this game, especially in such a micro-sized local industry, career advancement and development opportunities and choices are unlike most other professions.
You only have to look at the overwhelming numbers of QF FOs who returned to the Mother Ship after a relatively over-worked, under-paid stint in the left seat at JQ.
PG
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HR hired the wrong person if the person won't take a promotion from S/O to F/O!?!
You give HR too much credit sir, they are merely a placement system for the terminally mediocre since the government privatised NZ Rail
You give HR too much credit sir, they are merely a placement system for the terminally mediocre since the government privatised NZ Rail
Why is it the S/O's at fault if they don't want a right hand seat?
Obviously the position isn't attractive. Its up to the company to make it attractive, whether that be by lifestyle or pay.
Supply and demand, nothing else to it....
Obviously the position isn't attractive. Its up to the company to make it attractive, whether that be by lifestyle or pay.
Supply and demand, nothing else to it....
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I'm new to the SO role, and I'm in no hurry to go back to domestic flying on the bus. Currently I go to work for 3-4 days, fly 2 sectors and have anything from 3-12 days off between duties.
Quite a few Bus TOD's can be 4 days as well, except they'll do 5 sectors domestic into an overnight, a regional 2 sectors into another overnight, the same the 3rd day into yet another overnight port, and then a 3-5 sector domestic day to finish. As many as 14 sectors in 4 days, a couple of days off and then back into it.
The boys are getting flogged and it's no wonder there's not a huge queue to take a FO slot.
Another couple of rumours is extra airframes for the long haul fleets, 2-3 777's are supposedly being sought, and there's 6 further options on the 787 that might be firmed up in the near future. Given that, plus 130+ pilots turning 65 in the next 5yrs, time to a wide body FO slot maybe considerably less than current. So, the ability to have a decent work/lifestyle balance (based on current standards) for 4/5/6 yrs might be preferable to jumping on the Bus early for extra $$$.
Quite a few Bus TOD's can be 4 days as well, except they'll do 5 sectors domestic into an overnight, a regional 2 sectors into another overnight, the same the 3rd day into yet another overnight port, and then a 3-5 sector domestic day to finish. As many as 14 sectors in 4 days, a couple of days off and then back into it.
The boys are getting flogged and it's no wonder there's not a huge queue to take a FO slot.
Another couple of rumours is extra airframes for the long haul fleets, 2-3 777's are supposedly being sought, and there's 6 further options on the 787 that might be firmed up in the near future. Given that, plus 130+ pilots turning 65 in the next 5yrs, time to a wide body FO slot maybe considerably less than current. So, the ability to have a decent work/lifestyle balance (based on current standards) for 4/5/6 yrs might be preferable to jumping on the Bus early for extra $$$.
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Some guys started this week, including some externals. 2 of which are going to the bus, 1 chc domeciled. Not sure, but I think they were employed as 777 SO, then directed to the a320 before the 777 course starts. Both agreed to it beforehand though. I think it was offered to all of them.
