Qantas 787 recruitment for cadetship

[Iron Bar]

It's actually preferable to have a healthy, rational competitor. So, no Qantas won't do anything to seriously damage Virgin. Think of the consequences if Virgin were damaged to the extent of either reducing size or folding all together. Not good for anyone.

[Keg]

Last info I had was still for the start of the FY.

Rob, maybe it's just about the best candidates available at the time.

[rmcdonal]

It's actually preferable to have a healthy, rational competitor. So, no Qantas won't do anything to seriously damage Virgin.

I would agree with you there if I hadn't just watched them claw each others eyes out for the past few years with capacity dumping.

Rob, maybe it's just about the best candidates available at the time.

True, but if you are going to take them anyway, then putting them slightly out of order to affect maximum inconvenience for your competitor would surely be an effective strategy?

BTW I am not suggesting this is a sensible idea.

[Koizi]

Last info I had was still for the start of the FY.

Hey Keg,

Would that be for the ground courses or for the start of the recruitment process?

TIA

[Keg]

Ground courses.

[Capt Fathom]

Keg.
How do you know all this?

[Keg]

Various conversations with various people. The Townsville refueller is best.

I'm all seriousness, if a former cadet on placement with Qlink was starting in 4 weeks we'd know about it here on PPRUNE about 15 minutes (perhaps less) after they got the phone call.

I simply asked someone who should know if there were trainees starting in April and the response was 'no, next FY'. Maybe they're right. Maybe they're not. Maybe it won't be the start of the FY and it'll be a bit later. That's the info I have though.

The numbers thrown around at recent meetings indicate still circa 150 on LWOP to phase back in over the next couple of years. Suspect not all of them will return but that may not be many.

[C441]

Keg's info is on the money from what I've heard too. No specific date was mentioned but June/July was indicated. It was also confirmed at a recent company gathering I attended.

[maggot]

They "wanted" to start the course in april but couldn't get it organised in time or something. Nfi how they couldnt see it coming or squeeze it into the 330 sausage factory considering they're at min capacity awaiting the surge to come

[blumoon]

So reality check for anyone without an LOI or cadet... If most of the cadets come back and courses are around 30 pilots large, it doesnt appear that there would be any external recruitment until end of year at best? Assuming first course in jul'ish?

[mcgrath50]

So reality check for anyone without an LOI or cadet... If most of the cadets come back and courses are around 30 pilots large, it doesnt appear that there would be any external recruitment until end of year at best? Assuming first course in jul'ish?

Back of the beer coaster calculations would suggest and of year as the absolute earliest, probably later. BUT that assumes they are going to clear Cadets/LOI people first. I have heard rumours they will all be mixed in together with new applicants, particularly the cadets, so as not to take too many from Qlink all at once.

Basically, expect DE anytime between now and the end of 2017

[Transition Layer]

There's movement at the station...Letter of Intent holders from back in 08/09 have been getting called/emailed to update details etc.

[Koizi]

Letter of Intent holders from back in 08/09 have been getting called/emailed to update details etc.

Is this first hand? I wonder what happens if details have changed over the years, I know most of mine have.

[Rhodes13]

Same as above, is this actually confirmed? In the same boat all my details have changed.

Was a LOI holder and nothing heard so far.

[Koizi]

Who do we contact?

The million dollar question! Probably no-one at this stage without contradicting their website instructions

Were they still doing LOIs in 09? I thought their last ground school was around sept/oct 08, based on when they started pushing other courses back.

[Keg]

I've heard nothing about the LOI holders but it's not a question I've asked. I've not had a chance to have a chat with Captain Lisa Norman (who is heading up the 787 and recruitment team) and find where they're at as far as contacting LOI holders or whether they'll honour them.

They have now sought EOIs for crew to be involved in recruiting/ interviewing so that's another crucial step taken. It's not an answer to the question re LOIs though so sorry about that. Patience though. It's moving forward which is a massive improvement on the last 7 years.

Last course employed have seniority dates of Jan '09.

[Transition Layer]

Info direct from the guy who received the call. Not currently employed by QLink but was back when he got the Loi. Not sure if that changes things.

Sorry I don't know anymore than that people...good luck with it all!

[annon]

Ok,
thought I'd add my 2 cents, all based on fact.
Qlink have around 65 QF cadets and LOI holders. We were all asked to update out details between the 2-7 March on a QF website. When the Qlink CP was asked recently when these people would be leaving Qlink, he said that hiring for QF would start mid year (June). He mentioned first of all they would be trying to get guys back off LWOP and then be looking at cadets/LOI's. He also said that he has been in discussion with the CP at Qantas and that IF the Cadets and LOI's were bypassed (earlier ground schools) by direct hires to Qantas because Qlink can't release them that the Cadets/LOI's would not loose out.

Don't know how this will be done but thats the best, and most factual info I have at the moment.

[maggot]

Oooh i can hear the controversy brewing already
Loa161 wasnt it?

[*Lancer*]

It's theoretically possible by employing straight onto LWOP.

Similarly with the Direct Entry 737 rumour: The 737 FO slot could be awarded immediately to a new hire SOT. Also Post-Ansett there were a number of type rated pilots employed to operate temporarily in a higher category.