Qantas 787 recruitment for cadetship

[Lookleft]

A potential employer can't discriminate based on your previous employment. Ie, in this case, a suitably qualified and experienced pilot from JQ or Qlink has to be considered on the same merits as one from Rex or Alliance.

There are a whole range of factors that employers can't discriminate against including age, but males who are over 50 can't seem to get jobs no matter what their experience. I would bet that there might be a token few who would get accepted into mainline but any company has a workaround.

[engine out]

Heard exactly same rumour from several places regards hiring ratio, around 30% to be female. I know AJ has been pushing this line across the business for sometime. Really though whatever happened to employing the best person for the job?

As for other Qantas group pilots, I'm sure Qantas will take a few but they can always find a reason not to employ people who maybe qualified. They rejected plenty of fine pilots in the past.

[Iron Bar]

They certainly have a smart legal and HR team to interpret the Act. But to exclude one group entirely, in favor of another would be difficult to explain.

I suppose we will see, I reckon fairly soon. Get your CV in order gang. There must still be a "Folder" of cubes, maths problems and psych test questions still floating around.....

[0tto]

A potential employer can't discriminate based on your previous employment. Ie, in this case, a suitably qualified and experienced pilot from JQ or Qlink has to be considered on the same merits as one from Rex or Alliance.

Yes but a fine example is all the QantasLink flight attendants who had applied for international ops, had received the rejection email last week. Many of those are very good at their job too!

They are VERY short on cabin crew and they have blocked further leave approval till next financial year. It will be the same when Qantas begins to hire for pilots. Link management will be blocking many from moving across!

[Going Nowhere]

QLink have just released an EOI for flight crew to go to Network for 2 years on LWOP.

[VH DSJ]

QLink have just released an EOI for flight crew to go to Network for 2 years on LWOP.

Would this suggest management is expecting an exodus of Network crew to mainline/EK?

[Iron Bar]

Otto,

If that's the situation, have the crew gather their rejection letters together and call a good industrial lawyer. (Not FAAA). Apply to FWC and subpoena the interview notes and HR documents.

Takes some balls and commitment, but the HR managers and lawyers know that too.

[SixDemonBag]

Still hearing rumours of S/O recruitment onto the A330 mid-year.

[Chad Gates]

Is there any indication of how many?

[maggot]

Originally Posted by Chad Gates

Is there any indication of how many?

Depends how many cadets return the call

Total guess but maybe a few dozen max til the 787 ramp up. 330 and maybe 400.

[SandyPalms]

a few dozen

A330

I think it's fair to say, they are not all needed on the A330. New EBA and all that. Letters of preference updated.

Disclaimer: Galley Gossip with no facts whatsoever. No idea what timeframe, but rumours are by the end of the year.

[SixDemonBag]

I think it's fair to say, they are not all needed on the A330. New EBA and all that. Letters of preference updated.

It's all about creating an excess in a rank and type where vacancies will happen as everyone shuffles. It's crazy to think QF management and training department could have the foresight for once…especially after such a long time of stagnation. I could see some A330 S/O's taking first available F/O slots as it's not a pay reduction (as it is off some types - as discussed before).

As for training costs, seems lately that they don't GAF. The recent RIN's are a testament to that.

Resource Planning? You mean Resource Catch-up!

[Zac Clarke]

Reading the Long Haul EBA https://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/doc...a/AE415325.pdf

Would anyone be able to tell me what sort of "credit hours" to expect, to gauge an idea of remuneration as an SO at QF across the fleets.

Currently a Highline 320 FO with JQ, and would like to compare.

Appreciate any help.

[*Lancer*]

Zac, base bay credit hours (MGH) are 160H in 56 days. 1043H pa.

Increases to flying (e.g. 180H), overtime if applicable, ODTA (travelling allowance), meal allowances, and some other bits are all additional but don't get a home loan based on it.

Overtime is the largest variable between the fleets: zero on the 787, a little on the A330, 20-30% on the B744/A380.

[Troo believer]

you forgot the biggest fleet the 737. No over time either. 12 hour duty extendable if required. only get paid for the credited sector time. Sit on the ground for a few hours, no pay.

[Fuel-Off]

Am I hearing correctly that QF will be moving away from the archaic RAAFesque style of psychometric selection and moving towards a new world process? Not saying that this is going to be for better or worse, just wonder anyone in the know can add any credibility to said rumour?

Keg, white courtesy phone. Keg, white courtesy phone.

Fuel-Off

[Keg]

All I know is that with recruiting due to recommence in the next 6-18 months or so, they're taking the opportunity to review the way we've done business in the past and to update it for the 21st century.

The Sydney Swans' 'no dickheads' philosophy seems to be the model they're looking to emulate.

What it will actually look like, I have no idea. Time will tell. I hope the final product is as good as they seem to want it to be.

[Capt Fathom]

All I know is that with recruiting due to recommence in the next 6-18 months or so

The Cairns Refueller (cousin of TSV Refueller) tells me July 2016! Certainly within Keg's price range!

[maggot]

Maybe even sooner.....

[Zac Clarke]

Thanks Lancer,

In regards to allowances, what would be average allowances then? Trying to get an idea of a sample payslip really...

Cheers