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Old 5th Apr 2021, 14:57
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Guys I have a funny feeling its about to get pretty bonkers over here. United just announced more hiring, Delta won't be far behind.
Combine that with pretty much every LCC and cargo outfit hiring, as well as a few more startups.

I wouldn't be surprised if regionals started signing off on new E3s in the next 9 - 12 months.
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Old 5th Apr 2021, 20:50
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Originally Posted by umop apisdn View Post
I wouldn't be surprised if regionals started signing off on new E3s in the next 9 - 12 months.
There is a school of thought saying the demand for pilots post-COVID will be greater than pre-COVID because so many pilots were enticed to take early-out deals and/or others just driven out of the field for good or discouraged from entering in the first place. This will allegedly create a deficit during a robust economic recovery.

No data yet to support that and the data would be hard to come by due to the large number of variables but...I don't think the premise is entirely unreasonable.

We'll see...
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Old 5th Apr 2021, 21:20
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Originally Posted by bafanguy View Post
There is a school of thought saying the demand for pilots post-COVID will be greater than pre-COVID because so many pilots were enticed to take early-out deals and/or others just driven out of the field for good or discouraged from entering in the first place. This will allegedly create a deficit during a robust economic recovery.

No data yet to support that and the data would be hard to come by due to the large number of variables but...I don't think the premise is entirely unreasonable.

We'll see...
It really could go either way.
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Old 5th Apr 2021, 22:21
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Originally Posted by havick View Post
It really could go either way.
Absolutely !
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Old 9th Apr 2021, 21:59
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Originally Posted by havick View Post
There is one that is a step above a regional about to start hiring E3ís.

Ok I'll bite, what have you heard?

I heard through the grapevine that Frontier was considering trialling the E3 visa but doubt there is much substance to the rumour in this climate
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Old 10th Apr 2021, 15:02
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Originally Posted by umop apisdn View Post
Guys I have a funny feeling its about to get pretty bonkers over here. United just announced more hiring, Delta won't be far behind.
Kind of....UAL are simply putting guys that had been given class dates or job offers prior to COVID, a new class date. So it’s not new hiring. They’re being brought on board so we are fully staffed for summer 2022. The big question, is how well the rest of the world deals with the ongoing pandemic and how freely people can travel internationally. That will dictate the need to start interviews again and fresh hiring.

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Old 11th Apr 2021, 01:56
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Originally Posted by never rains View Post
Ok I'll bite, what have you heard?

I heard through the grapevine that Frontier was considering trialling the E3 visa but doubt there is much substance to the rumour in this climate
Frontier have not and probably never will consider E3 visas. Why would they? The lagacies and LCCs never struggled for applicants, just the regionals and some of the worst ACMIs.
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Old 11th Apr 2021, 14:50
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I heard from a reliable source that Frontier were considering E3s prior to Covid and are planning to revisit that option once things get back to normal. Wouldnít bet a dollar on it, but thatís the rumour.
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Old 11th Apr 2021, 15:17
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Whether ULCCs go for E3s or not is largely irrelevant for anyone still in Australia. You're pretty unlikely to make that happen without meeting anyone face to face. One ULCC did sign off one, and only one, who was in the right place at the right time. Regionals are still the key to getting into the industry over here.

If you're hell bent on shooting for a non regional, which I don't understand why you would be, Breeze would be the best target IMO
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Old 11th Apr 2021, 15:39
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Originally Posted by umop apisdn View Post
Whether ULCCs go for E3s or not is largely irrelevant for anyone still in Australia. You're pretty unlikely to make that happen without meeting anyone face to face. One ULCC did sign off one, and only one, who was in the right place at the right time. Regionals are still the key to getting into the industry over here.

If you're hell bent on shooting for a non regional, which I don't understand why you would be, Breeze would be the best target IMO
Breeze had nearly 4000 US applicants for 80 pilot jobs, probably not all were competitive but Iíd say a majority were. I donít think youíll see any ULCC doing E3 for some time yet, if ever. Hopefully a couple regionals may start hiring again later in the year but who knows. There are still a lot of unemployed citizen pilots there and a 4th wave of COVID is still on the horizon in the US from everything Iíve read lately.
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Old 11th Apr 2021, 17:05
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Originally Posted by Thumb War View Post
I heard from a reliable source that Frontier were considering E3s prior to Covid and are planning to revisit that option once things get back to normal. Wouldnít bet a dollar on it, but thatís the rumour.
Was this the reliable source that said Expressjet would stay open and Commutair will close? Or that 50 seaters are gone by the end of the year? Don't confuse rumour with what a particular person wants to see happen.
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Old 12th Apr 2021, 00:14
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Originally Posted by Climb150 View Post
Was this the reliable source that said Expressjet would stay open and Commutair will close? Or that 50 seaters are gone by the end of the year? Don't confuse rumour with what a particular person wants to see happen.
Thanks for the advice champ! I have no horse in this race, just an interested spectator.

I donít know which source youíre referring to and Iím not familiar with those rumours. Wonít elaborate any further on where I heard it except to say itís someone who should know.

Iím certainly not predicting what will happen, rumours mean nothing, weíll all just have to wait and see.
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Old 14th Apr 2021, 06:11
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says the equivalent of a bachelors degree.
ATPL is that
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Old 14th Apr 2021, 10:07
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The rumour of E3s being considered at Frontier is 100% true. I am in regular contact with a senior member of the recruiting department there. Pre-COVID they had plans to trial 6 Australian E3 pilots who were already there and had gained hours flying for regional operators.

If those pilots were successful, Frontier would have looked at ramping up that program. Regardless it wouldn't be an option for someone who hadn't already spent some time flying at one of the regional operators. They would only consider those who had over 500hrs of regional jet flying in the US first and met the other min requirements for total time etc.

It's still something they may revisit if there is a need down the road as things recover. But there would be no direct path from Oz to that job without a stint at a regional.
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Old 14th Apr 2021, 10:56
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Originally Posted by Captain.Crunch View Post
The rumour of E3s being considered at Frontier is 100% true. I am in regular contact with a senior member of the recruiting department there. Pre-COVID they had plans to trial 6 Australian E3 pilots who were already there and had gained hours flying for regional operators.

If those pilots were successful, Frontier would have looked at ramping up that program. Regardless it wouldn't be an option for someone who hadn't already spent some time flying at one of the regional operators. They would only consider those who had over 500hrs of regional jet flying in the US first and met the other min requirements for total time etc.

It's still something they may revisit if there is a need down the road as things recover. But there would be no direct path from Oz to that job without a stint at a regional.
Donít be so sure about your last paragraph.
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Old 14th Apr 2021, 11:32
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Is that last paragraph because of some legal requirements?

Doesn't make a lot of sense otherwise when they could get type rated with significant experience on type rather than 500 hours RJ
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Old 14th Apr 2021, 11:32
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Originally Posted by havick View Post
Donít be so sure about your last paragraph.
What part of it exactly??
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Old 14th Apr 2021, 11:44
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Originally Posted by WillieTheWimp View Post
Is that last paragraph because of some legal requirements?

Doesn't make a lot of sense otherwise when they could get type rated with significant experience on type rather than 500 hours RJ
They told me they wanted that 500 jet/turbine time to be operating for a US part 121 operation. And would only look at Australians who had already been in the US on an E3.
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Old 14th Apr 2021, 11:55
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Originally Posted by WillieTheWimp View Post
Is that last paragraph because of some legal requirements?

Doesn't make a lot of sense otherwise when they could get type rated with significant experience on type rather than 500 hours RJ
US operators don't care if you already have type ratings. One must do the whole training program even if you are already rated.

Overseas ICAO type ratings don't mean anything to FAA as they are valid for SIC privileges, not for PIC.
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Old 14th Apr 2021, 11:58
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Originally Posted by pistonpuffer View Post
says the equivalent of a bachelors degree.
ATPL is that
And no, ATPL is not equivalent to a 4 years degree. I don't know who came up with this idea that ATPL theories are equivalent to 4 years worth of studies at tertiary education institutions.
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