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Old 13th Sep 2015, 23:12
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& waren you have a clue ??????
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Pilat: Ewan Wilson should have never been let anywhere near another Airline, and it would not surprise me if CAA decline the AOC.
Now that might be a tad embarrassing since I think two of the head honchos in the KiwiAir operation recently worked at CAA.
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yeh I don't think they have any reason to not grant the AOC. Statute of limitations.
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Bush Lawyer -

Statute of Limitations does not apply - the test is 'a fit and proper person'. The basis for determining that goes back to the day you were born if needs be.
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He only needs FPP approval if he decides to hold a senior persons role like CEO, Ops manager, etc. The press releases seemed to suggest he’s CEO, but if the feds give him grief (and “honesty crimes” like fraud would likely be grounds to) then hiring an outside CEO and taking another senior management position would be an option. Sounds expensive.

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Old 18th Sep 2015, 06:12
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TV ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0qN...ature=youtu.be
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proving flight(s) next week, start regular ops week after. Apparently many small towns in New Zealand are lining up to try & get Kiwi to fly to their airport.


Makes sense, as long as the big black rat(NZ) don't fly the exact route.


Wonder if 2nd aircraft is on its way yet.
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Old 16th Oct 2015, 01:45
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Yawn who cares Yawn
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Old 16th Oct 2015, 09:47
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the black rat isnt concerned.

the orange rat will do black rats work on ewan for free.
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And then the orange rat will go to work on the black rat.
5 planes, 15 planes , 35 planes, who cares, it's just a drop in the bucket man.
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maybe. but thats for another thread.

9 jets plus 5 dh8s will be 14 very soon, yes?

whos going bust first? ewan or robert?
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I dunno but the whole thing plays into the hands of the adage that the industry looks totally different every ten years.if I had to bet I would say Jetstar and ANZ will find a way to live with each other and everyone else will slip away.
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Old 17th Oct 2015, 02:02
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once they have their NZ AOC they could feasibly fly domestically in Australia but under NZCAA rules not CASA rules. think Vincent NZL did that with their BAE146 til May last year.
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Old 17th Oct 2015, 05:26
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Yep, that worked out well for Vincent

Doesn't matter what kiwi airs competition is, they will be bust within a year and lots of people will be out of pocket. You simply can't fly that schedule through ZQN with a single SAAB and not suffer massive disruption along the way, I hope they have a massive fund for passenger recovery around the country.
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BNEA320, FFS they have 1 Saab, why do you think they would try to operate in Oz? Yes Vincent did that with the 146, but they also had a base in Darwin with VH reg aircraft. The 146 was the downfall of Vincent (sort of) and finished them off. This is not a thread about Vincent so I’ll stop there.

Ollie, agreed. I’ve been wondering for some time where the money from the pre-booked tickets (if any) is currently sitting?

I wish them luck but there’s no AOC at the moment, proving flights yet to be done, and the FPP to pass for some.

One aircraft will present problems due unserviceability, and scheduled maintenance. Do they / will they have a maintenance presence at any of their scheduled ports of call?

As a round up, there are a lot of questions regarding this startup which I guess will come out in the wash………….. I guess we just watch this space……….

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Old 17th Oct 2015, 09:16
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Saab 340's are cheap to lease or buy esp A models, esp cf. similar sized Dash 8's. No 2 & 3 can't be that far away.
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BNEA320: Saab 340's are cheap to lease or buy esp A models, esp cf. similar sized Dash 8's. No 2 & 3 can't be that far away.
Unless you're a collector, you need work for the aircraft to justify to your backers that you should buy or lease it. So far they haven't proven they have work for the one they already have.
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I guess things aren't looking too rosy for Ewan:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/7...tor-ban-ageist

and

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/7301...d-ticket-sales

But hey, any publicity must be good publicity... right?
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Had to laugh when I saw the photo of that tractor.

With regard to Queenstown, nobody is particularly happy with the airport operator but if gate 1 is good enough for the ATR pax it's good enough for the Saab pax as well - if there are any.
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Wow, ticket sales have been awful on the DUD-ZQN sector. Who would've guessed ...
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