Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
Reload this Page >

Qantas risks large fines, losing slots at Heathrow for late A380s: internal memo

Wikiposts
Search
Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific Airline and RPT Rumours & News in Australia, enZed and the Pacific

Qantas risks large fines, losing slots at Heathrow for late A380s: internal memo

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 16th Apr 2015, 09:46
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Qantas risks large fines, losing slots at Heathrow for late A380s: internal memo

Qantas risks large fines, losing slots at Heathrow for late A380s: internal memo
Bad Adventures is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2015, 15:58
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Brisbane.
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Marty sounds bored already.

This sure sounds like a problem that belongs to Flight Operations and not the "people focused" Base Ops.

Also, they could use two or three more 380s to fix the problem.

Last edited by Nigel747; 16th Apr 2015 at 16:36.
Nigel747 is offline  
Old 17th Apr 2015, 06:35
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: On the chopping board.
Posts: 929
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
The way this aircraft is handled from an engineering perspective is entirely different to the way the Boeings were. It is a complete cluster, one that I am sometimes glad to be watching from the sidelines.
Ngineer is offline  
Old 17th Apr 2015, 07:01
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Somewhere on the Australian Coast
Posts: 1,091
Received 164 Likes on 36 Posts
This is largely a result of rescheduling to improve aircraft utilisation.

The wunderkind that sat in the office and worked out the new schedule that would work in a perfect world had no idea that aeroplanes don't operate in such a state of nirvana.

There is simply no fat built into the international schedule to allow recovery due to delays. Something as simple as a passenger lost in duty free can snowball into a couple of days delays.

As an example, the aircraft that used to operate the QF64 from Joburg to Sydney arriving about 3.30 PM used to operate the 21 at 2130. It now generally operates to LA as the 17 at about 6pm. A delay on the 63, snowballs into the 64 and the 17 and can't be recovered until the aircraft has 3 or 4 hours on the ground in LA.

Said wunderkind will have left the building with a nice bonus while flight ops staff try to pick up the pieces.
DirectAnywhere is offline  
Old 17th Apr 2015, 09:14
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Australia
Posts: 324
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The minimum international turnaround time (not a transit) for a B744 was 3hr. That was achievable, but even then a 10 minute delay somewhere could potentially jeopardize it. Most of that time was spent on cabin cleaning. To cut the time spent cleaning you need more staff as it is a labor intensive job, and that's one thing I'm pretty sure QF hasn't increased. Also the A380 is larger than the B744. I'm sure one of the rocket scientists at QCC would have got a pat on the back for his bright idea. I'd bet it wasn't run by any front line staff for their input. Once again, the smartest guys in the room.

Apparently they only bought the A380 model that fixes itself. They should have also bought the optional self cleaning kit.
rammel is offline  
Old 17th Apr 2015, 10:52
  #6 (permalink)  
swh

Eidolon
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Some hole
Posts: 2,178
Received 24 Likes on 13 Posts
There is simply no fat built into the international schedule to allow recovery due to delays. Something as simple as a passenger lost in duty free can snowball into a couple of days delays.
Lots of fat is you fly at M0.87.

They can make time up by burning more fuel, however the easier commercial decision is to delay passengers and keep your costs the same.

The minimum international turnaround time (not a transit) for a B744 was 3hr.
Can do it in an hour in Asia, everything takes longer in Australia.
swh is offline  
Old 17th Apr 2015, 13:54
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: on the beach
Age: 68
Posts: 2,027
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
This, from the article....

A jack damaged the horizontal stabiliser in the tail of Charles Kingsford Smith.
In the words of Kevin 'Bloody' Wilson, this sounds fg painful mate!
Evanelpus is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.