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QF to open Heavy Maintenance Base for 717 in Canberra

Old 10th Apr 2015, 06:07
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QF to open Heavy Maintenance Base for 717 in Canberra

"About 40 high skilled aircraft engineering jobs will be created in Canberra as Qantas opens a new heavy maintenance facility in October."

Plans for the new Boeing 717 engineering facility were announced on Friday by QantasLink chief executive officer John Gissing, who was joined by ACT Chief Minister Andrew Barr.
Full story from this afternoons online edition of the Canberra Times can be found at:

Qantas to open new Canberra heavy maintenance base

I guess that will make good use of the hanger that was originally built for Implulse with ACT Govt support but has basically been underutilised since completion.

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Old 10th Apr 2015, 07:29
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And how many have lost there job in Adelide? Yingand yang.
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 08:25
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And the contractors in canberrra supposedly.

Cheaper or brining it all back 'in-house?'
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 08:38
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Hopefully all the COBHAM engineers made redundant in CBR and ADL will be hired by QantasLink.
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 19:47
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Why would you base anything in Canberra? It's the absolute arse end of any logistics chain.
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 21:29
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How about...

That's Great news more jobs for engineers

But No ....

complaint after bitch after whinge after sarcasm.

You guys could whinge about winning Lotto and still find fault in that it was only 10 million.
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 22:30
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Ad-Astra, they make a good point though. With Cobham guys in Adelaide who do 717 heavy maint and the canberra guys possibly getting made redundent, the 40 jobs in canberra is just a reshuffle of work, probably not new engineering jobs.
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Old 10th Apr 2015, 23:54
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Anybody know how many 717's are currently in the Q-link fleet?


I ask because, if the number is less than 20, it is a marked change in QF philosophy to onshore heavy maintenance. As their idea is that anything less than 20 aircraft isn't sustainable for a heavy maintenance line.


Interesting development all the same.


.....ahh, the article quotes a fleet number of 18. Yet no 747 or A380 heavy maintenance is viable at a fleet size less than 20. Hmm, interesting.
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Old 11th Apr 2015, 01:05
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Steady on there ad-Astra! I don't think anyone can be criticized for expressing concerns about what Qantas management do these days. If the track record is anything to go by, there will probably be plenty of good engineers getting the chop.
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Old 11th Apr 2015, 02:00
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Great news for QF engineers.

Terrible news for Cobham engineers.
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Old 11th Apr 2015, 02:20
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Will they be QF Link engineers or some other entity?
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They will use QLink (Eastern) Engineers already based in CBR. They already do (A?) Checks on the 717s there, now they're going to be doing the heavy stuff too.

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Old 11th Apr 2015, 05:46
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They will use QLink (Eastern) Engineers already based in CBR.
You will find most of the staff in the Canberra hangar are contractors through Sigma - not employed by Eastern/Qantaslink.
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Old 12th Apr 2015, 01:41
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Agreed...
Are there any 717 type licenced QF engineers at this time??
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Old 12th Apr 2015, 10:06
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How about putting licence coverage in Melbourne, lost count with the amount of delays with defects into Melbourne and then waiting for an appropriately licensed engineer to be flown in from either CBR or ADL to fix/certify for sometimes the most minor of defects. Unless something has changed in very recent times, which I doubt! Tin pot cheap arse operation at best who are no doubt meeting the very minimum OTP figures for the network but not ex MEL.
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Bumpfoh,
Could you post the very minimum OTP guidelines or a link to them so we can all see Tinpot cheaparsed operations compared to other operations.


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Old 12th Apr 2015, 23:06
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Originally Posted by Bumpfoh View Post
How about putting licence coverage in Melbourne, lost count with the amount of delays with defects into Melbourne and then waiting for an appropriately licensed engineer to be flown in from either CBR or ADL to fix/certify for sometimes the most minor of defects. Unless something has changed in very recent times, which I doubt! Tin pot cheap arse operation at best who are no doubt meeting the very minimum OTP figures for the network but not ex MEL.
In reality its QF that decides where and how many engineers they based in which locations.
You maybe correct re the OTP but pointing the finger in the wrong direction, unless you expect Cobham out of the goodness of their shareholders pockets to prop up Qantas?
QF have chosen a cheaper contractor, its not good news for anyone except QF share holders really. (maybe)

Some engineers have been offered contracts with Sigma, the other contracter on $25K less and working approx 40 more days per year for the priviledge, plus they alot of them would have to move. Lets all clap our hands and say what great news? Rather than see this as more pilot jobds for Qlink, see it as what it really is and thats probably a move towards even cheaper contracters on lower conditions. Same with cabin crew and all other support staff.
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Some engineers have been offered contracts with Sigma, the other contracter on $25K less and working approx 40 more days per year for the priviledge,
As well as no sick leave, no annual leave, no redundancy provisions.

While Cobham may be a "contractor" all the Canberra guys were full time employees of a company with all the associated benefits and protections.
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Some engineers have been offered contracts with Sigma, the other contracter on $25K less and working approx 40 more days per year for the priviledge,
As well as no sick leave, no annual leave, no redundancy provisions.

While Cobham may be a "contractor" all the Canberra guys were full time employees of a company with all the associated benefits and protections.
Meanwhile the people making these under hand cost cutting moves still have full time employment with all the benefits and of course their bonus.

Are these really new jobs or just shuffling of the deck chairs.
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This is not in any way shape or form a good news story. About 50 Cobham Engineers are losing their jobs and I doubt that 15 positions will open up for them employed through a Labour Hire mob.


Along with the job losses, baggage handlers will be now doing the aircraft receipt and dispatch in Canberra. Only one airline I know could try and spin this into a good news story.
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