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Virgin takes full control of Tigerair

Old 23rd Oct 2014, 11:11
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Don't see that (personally)

What do you REALLY need for a domestic 1-4 hour sector??

What is the DIFFERENCE with an 8 - 12 hour International sector??

Things ARE changing, WILL change....and survivability tends to be afforded to those who (whilst decrying the changing environment) do change.

Right or wrong things will change....as proof just ask the dinosaurs!!

Apparently AirAsia now offering flat beds in Business - as they may define it - (no idea of food and grog) into Oz for $800 AUD or so.

If you THINK things should be as they were 10-15-20 years ago that's fine, nostalgia/history/reminiscing are all great parts of life.

If you honestly THINK things should be as they were 10-15-20 years ago....serious reality check happening at some time in the not-too-distant-future.

Of course just IMHO, could be completely wrong.
See what time decides!

Cheers!
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Old 23rd Oct 2014, 12:56
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Galdian yes you are right some LCC's are putting business in long haul.

Personally, when I've had to pay for it, I've sharpened the pencil and worked out for a few dollars more I don't have to be surrounded by hoards of LCC passengers. Cabins getting tighter, stress getting higher and I think there will be a market for QF and VA as not everyone is trying to save small feed on airfares. You know, I just couldn't be bothered getting my card out to pay for food whilst on board just give me something and let me watch the rest of the movie is my mantra.

Being in the industry for a few years I also know that there is no such thing as 'cheap'. There are no short cuts, you get what you pay for. I'm not up for a 18 year old FO cadet taking my family into the Gold Coast on a dark and stormy night thanks very much! (I'll take QF with all the training and equipment on any day). Having said that there are PLENTY that are willing to do the LCC option as we're hardly a country renowned for choosing to pay more for service or quality are we.

As for NZ and the Tasman? How about ANZ just decide they'll do it and we do Australia. Hmmmm.

Either way, it would be good to see some profit in our industry for the airlines. Seems everybody else is having a great time bar us!
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Old 25th Oct 2014, 04:17
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RAD ALT ALIVE...was I married to you once? Do I owe you an apology for something? No? Well then, allow me to ellaborate:

My observation was that the JQ total experience...the process, the terminal amenities, the plane and crew weren't bad. They experience did remind me of flying on an average US carrier...better than American, say, but not as good as Delta. Point being it was a good, serviceable product with a reasonable reputation in the marketplace. That is, better than it was five years ago, and better than the folk lore inside QF would have you believe. I paid $115 for an exit seat with luggage on a 1:10 sector, the lowest price avaiable that day, and about what it was worth to me.

And to that clown BNEA320... I'll put my BS ratio against yours any day, son.
The reason I opted not to choose Tiger is because of their shallow service recovery ability. I don't want a small airline's problem to become my problem, which is precisely why none of my friends will ever again buy a chance on TT. That should be simple enough to grasp.
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Old 27th Oct 2014, 18:02
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Changing of the guard

HH and TG did their respective interviews with JQ.


So when do they start and who steps up?
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Old 28th Oct 2014, 02:37
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So now we're back to 2 major airlines in Australia, the Qantas Group Vs Virgin Group although the structure is vastly different from the the TAA vs Ansett of yesteryear each with their low cost, and regional turbo-prop off shoots.

Will Tigerair drivers now join the Virgin seniority list, or will they continue to operate autonomously?
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Old 28th Oct 2014, 08:07
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And to that clown BNEA320... I'll put my BS ratio against yours any day, son.
The reason I opted not to choose Tiger is because of their shallow service recovery ability. I don't want a small airline's problem to become my problem, which is precisely why none of my friends will ever again buy a chance on TT. That should be simple enough to grasp.
Service recovery is now improving immensely, however in terms of available aircraft that is still a problem. TT has the ability to FIM to VA now which does save a lot of headaches.
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Old 28th Oct 2014, 16:02
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Oh Woody...you are a 5hit stirrer, aren't you?

Buzz.
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Old 29th Oct 2014, 01:49
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Flew KUL to OOL Air Asia couple of months ago in business class. I describe it a business class seat without the service. Good seat (I would envisage like first gen skybed), nice quilt and pillow, very comfy for the overnight service. We did get a meal included and it was pretty good would describe it as a premium economy product. It was on special for 340AUD
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Old 29th Oct 2014, 02:40
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hey Aopith the chief clown.


We are so sick of hearing that TT is awful & QF is wonderful.


Had to fly QF the other day, as client has a QF a/c. Our meal was a cookie.


As not working, asked for a rum & coke which was prepared to pay for & told only beer & wine on domestics except PER now.


Even in QF Club no bundy !!!. What's the world coming to.
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Old 30th Oct 2014, 00:07
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Danger Management Spill

Is it true that there has been a spill of Flt Ops Management (I use the term loosely) in Tigerair?
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Old 30th Oct 2014, 01:07
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Do TT employees get any form of staff travel ?
Either on TT or VA, MyID etc ?
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Old 30th Oct 2014, 02:00
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No Bundy??

Probably doing the customers a favor by not serving it. Still can't work out how they get the cat to squat over the bottle long enough to fill it.
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Old 30th Oct 2014, 05:01
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TT get staff travel on the TT network only, no VA
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Old 30th Oct 2014, 05:57
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I have had a Bundy in every Qantas club I have been to, sometimes you have to ask though or they might slip in a Coruba.
Bundy available in all classes on the aircraft, in the old days they didn't have it in First, but if asked the crew would get a bottle up from further back.
Anyway, thread drift, I know nothing of Tiger (apart from a few mates flying there).
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Old 6th Nov 2014, 07:14
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Angel James4th

"Is it true that there has been a spill of Flt Ops Management (I use the term loosely) in Tigerair?"

Now, now let's not point Percy at the porcelain just yet!
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