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Old 20th Oct 2017, 23:51
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Agreed Mangi fokker, this is just a delay tactic to keep pilots there for the xmas period, not paying Aon contributions, promises of tours, promotion ect all very desperate tactics.
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Old 21st Oct 2017, 06:26
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Well if I were there and not being paid my superannuation I would not be working until I got it.

About time to stand up to the stand over tactics, espectially when it is your money they are not paying, what crap employer takes money from your pay and doesnt put it in your bank.

Time to withdraw labour until it is paid.....another words a good reason to go on strike....geez you guys got screwed over on a contract, got screwed on a court case, now they are not paying super...what else are you going to put up with!!!
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Old 22nd Oct 2017, 12:33
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The PM has an aeroplane crewed by PX pilot's, wrong!

The PM now has an aeroplane crewed by one fully employed pilot. The other, the Captain, is now a contract pilot. They have no backup. The backup they had refuses the B scale payment.

A lot more to this story but cannot be revealed at this stage.

Maybe when the PM changes his plans and has no-one to crew the flight can more be revealed.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 21:59
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The following communication from the PNGAPA lawyers was made available to me and is self explanatory.

Firstly, good news for all APA members. The good news is that when I last appeared before, His Honour Kassman J, the lawyers for Air Niugini informed me that they will not raise any objection or raise any issue with APA being included in the order at the hearing of the Supreme Court. In other words, our review application to include APA in the appeal will not be challenged.

Secondly, during the last directions hearing, Kassman J consolidated our Supreme Court Review (SCR) No. 87 of 2017 and Supreme Court Appeal (SCA) No. 83 of 2017 be consolidated and the court order and our Review Application be incorporated into the Appeal Book. Following theses orders, Kassman J directed parties to return to court on Monday 23 October 2017 to confirm compliance of the orders which we did and His Honour made further orders that the matter is listed for Chief Justice to allocated a Hearing date on 6th November 2017. On 6 November 2017 I will return to court and confirm the hearing date.

We hope to get the hearing date in the month of December 2017 to complete the matter. I will provide further brief to you after 6th November 2017 and confirm the hearing date.
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 03:45
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Just received this update.

At the hearing on November 6 a court date was set being December 11.

One day has been set aside.

In the morning the the appeal by Poxie on the original decision will be heard and in the afternoon the "review" of the PNGAPA being excluded from the original decision will be heard.

Of note is that Poxies lawyers will not be contesting the PNGAPA "review" but supporting them as they believe the Judge made an error by excluding them.

It has now been 3 years since the forced introduction of the contract and after the hearing on the 11th a final decision will be handed down which I am led to believe cannot be contested.

Just a matter of waiting now for the final verdict.
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 07:52
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Originally Posted by olderairhead View Post

......after the hearing on the 11th a final decision will be handed down which I am led to believe cannot be contested.

Just a matter of waiting now for the final verdict.
Thanks for the update Olderairhead and I wish the pilots the best of luck, however unfortunately I bet my left nut you will be giving us updates on this sad state of affairs well into 2018.
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Old 10th Nov 2017, 11:57
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The predicted exodus of pilots has commenced.

3 nationals and 1 expat have handed in their resignations today. All on the Fokker fleet. Word is this is just the start. More to come very very soon.

4th floor did not see this one coming and will be in for a big surprise very soon.
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Old 10th Nov 2017, 15:31
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This would be poxie exodus 2. A continuation of the horror movie. Produced by simple Simon , the Italian pretender and a ring in from Pakistan. Directed by the blue lagoon and Too far.
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Old 10th Nov 2017, 20:59
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Hearing whispers of the number 7. And all Captains too. That will hurt.

A decision before Christmas is also on the cards.
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Old 13th Nov 2017, 09:50
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If it is so good maybe you should ask the 3 cadets who just completed their command ground school why they quit.

Also tours are not on offer to currently employed pilots, except for the kiwis and a couple of others.

Not employed as a recruitment agent are we saabs?
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Old 13th Nov 2017, 10:37
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[QUOTE Not employed as a recruitment agent are we saabs?[/QUOTE]

I doubt that very much. I'd say he's only giving a friendly heads up.
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Old 13th Nov 2017, 10:40
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I believe tours and commuting are available as options to all pilots on the Link Png contracts ( both Captains and FO’s). Understand this contract also does have currency stabilisation, and (probably more relevant for the PNG pilots) seniority with Pixie. One of the friends did say the take home pay for a tour Captain was slightly better than what a Air Nelson Dash-8 Captain gets ( and you can live wherever you want)
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Old 13th Nov 2017, 11:48
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Originally Posted by MachTwelve View Post
I believe tours and commuting are available as options to all pilots on the Link Png contracts ( both Captains and FO’s).
Thats not what I am being told.
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Old 13th Nov 2017, 17:42
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Better than Air Nelson -Was that before or after the recent Air Nelson contract upgrade? They now have more money and more days off. And domilce location might be flexible within the next year or two.
This is an atempt to stem the outflow of nz crew, who are picking up the local and foriegn jet jobs. I havent hear of anyone leaving for a turboprop job. There are just too many options at the moment.
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Old 15th Nov 2017, 08:10
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Rumour from the 4th floor was that the cadets had resigned and reapplied as direct entry Captains with Link so they would get better pay rather than stay with Poxie and be paid cadet wages. hahahahaha good one.

Simon Says called 2 of them in today and wanted to give them 24 hours to reconsider and also offered the promise of better wages and conditions. Trust me I am Simon Says.

But the truth of the matter is that Hong Kong is a destination of choice and one months pay up there is equivalent to a full years pay with Poxie.

Me thinks Simon Says is in for a rude shock especially when another 7 (rumoured at this stage) follow the leaders.

There is only so many times you can kick a dog before it retaliates.
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Old 15th Nov 2017, 08:47
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Originally Posted by olderairhead View Post
Rumour from the 4th floor was that the cadets had resigned and reapplied as direct entry Captains with Link so they would get better pay rather than stay with Poxie and be paid cadet wages. hahahahaha good one.

Simon Says called 2 of them in today and wanted to give them 24 hours to reconsider and also offered the promise of better wages and conditions. Trust me I am Simon Says.

But the truth of the matter is that Hong Kong is a destination of choice and one months pay up there is equivalent to a full years pay with Poxie.

Me thinks Simon Says is in for a rude shock especially when another 7 (rumoured at this stage) follow the leaders.

There is only so many times you can kick a dog before it retaliates.
Oh let the games begin. I only hope that they all have the metal and fortitude to carry it through and depart. Not like many of those who have gone before them and got cold feet at the last moment.Being afraid of not being the bigmen any more. The old bigfish in a shitty little pond or a small fish in the big wide world pond .
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Old 16th Nov 2017, 21:01
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Another National cadet has resigned.
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 09:06
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Total Cleanout Required.

Whale oil beef hooked.
It is simply staggering how the successive Board members and other hierarchy can just sit back and watch about 4 incompetent (can't be called management) flunkies systematically, almost personally, destroy the once great world class airline that we knew, and yet not take any action whatsoever against these incompetent individuals who are actively involved in reverse racism, amongst other activities.
The legal costs alone need questioning, let alone the total lack of managerial integrity shown over recent years. A total cleanout is required to prevent what many have been forecasting and prophesying, and it can't happen soon enough.
The waste of 44 years worth of training, huge loss of experience and skill, and the subsequent erosion of goodwill is damn near incalculable.
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 12:23
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As told by Cadets....Cadetship finally finished after 8 - 10 years..so ofto the DH8 for the first command, ground school finished but now told that they will now be "Cadet Captains" and not Line Captains as happened in past, not proper Captains until they get their jet command.

Wow, One way of saving money, but ay Simon the financial problem is bigger than saving pennies.

Considering the Grand Chiefs Independents day speeches, the Chief would be ashamed of how Pixie is treating its National Cadets, meant to be the future of PNG.
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Old 25th Nov 2017, 10:48
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I have been hearing rumours of serious financial problems for PX such as non payment to NAC for the previous 12 months, owing the builders of the new PX hotel many many millions of Kina (38?) as well as Simon Says going begging for 100 million kina and then I received the following:

PNG’s NATIONAL FLAG CARRIER IS STRUGGLING TO SURVIVE
PNG’s National Flag carrier (Air Nuigini) is really struggling to survive in PNG’s Airline Industries at the moment. As a concerned citizen, I am very worried how this company has been managed so far…
While the airline’s financial situation is deteriorating, some executives are spending more time entertaining young junior staff. Who is that Expat Executive of the National Flag Carrier caught many times with his pants down with junior staff at the Air Niugini office car park?? He was also punched by a supplier twice for bullying local suppliers. Is he concerned with the deteriorating financial situation? Appears not.
If he was a ‘bilak sikin’ he would have bitten the dust long ago. In one instance, he wrecked a company car after an all night binge with one of his junior officers. This matter was of course swept under the carpet. He called in security to rescue them, the security appears not to have filed an incident report, or if they did, no action resulted from it. Bilak sikins have been sacked for similar offences. He was seen with yet another junior staff in very compromising situation at PX HQ car park, again no action. Official meetings, mostly unnecessarily long meetings, with young, nubile girls are frequent, and minutes of banter and small talk always preludes any official discussion. Seems he is always on the lookout for potential suitors.
He jets off to Brissy every two weeks or so to see the misis and con her into thinking everything is fine. Meanwhile, PX is in serious financial situation. Creditors are owed tens of millions, and counting, and this executive sees fit to spend his time fulfilling his libido and travelling.
This same executive was collared in his office by an irate creditor who is owed tens of thousands for the new residential building. Happened in front of all his staff. He was rescued by some of his staff.
Most people working at PX HQ are aware of these morons’ deeds, and many ‘executive’ managers also know. When will PX management and the Board get rid of this guy?
The PNGs only airline carrier is financially broke, while their attempt to get a K100million loan from BSP was rejected outright due to poor financial performance for the last couple of years showing signs of going nowhere.
Their fourth and final attempt to hold back the large foreign owned planes on lease to Air Niugini is under continues negotiations for two weeks from now in Singapore with all the Senior Managers still in Singapore now.
Also, the Financial Controller of Air Niugini is working from Australia now due to his work permit has expired.
Air Niugini is another time bomb to create disaster in the history of our airline and the Government need to take some drastic actions to put in capable people who can manage this company.
PNC COALITION GOVERNMENT NEED TO STEP IN NOW OR IT WILL TOO LATE….


By the way resignations are still continuing.
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