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JQ Pilots on LWOP returning to Qantas

Old 2nd Sep 2014, 05:52
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You can't have your cake and eat it too.

What about the guys below your seniority number at Qantas that want some stability?

If you tried to extend your MOU LWOP I'd expect all the JQ numbers to lodge a grievance and all the QF numbers junior to you also.
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 07:22
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JPC have no say in it. They were put back in their box by management a month ago. Lucky the Darwin base closed when it did or they were in trouble.

While an extension for mou captains would make a lot of sense financially (and it could be easily done with a simple contract). Industrially and politically it would be too difficult.
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Old 2nd Sep 2014, 10:03
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Hey Iron Bar, what did Darwin have to do with it? I'm obviously missing some part of the puzzle??
 
Old 2nd Sep 2014, 11:48
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With Q pilots returning from Jetstar, nothing. Different issue, I digress slightly.

Point being, the JPC would have nothing to do with the hypothetical retention of Q pilots (that won't happen anyway) outside the mou. There is no provision for extending it.

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Old 17th Sep 2014, 23:57
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And as management continues to divide and conquer, pilots on both sides continue to fight and further management's cause.

Without unity we are dead in the water.
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 00:04
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It's ok circus, rumour is a new jetstar chief pilot mightn't be too far off. Seems the concept of seniority doesn't fit in with these types, so if you can't get a 400 command you might as well take something orange instead.
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 00:25
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Hotnhigh...Can you elaborate on your post, please?

What does the new chief pilot have to do with anything, and of which seniority are we speaking? Group seniority?

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Old 18th Sep 2014, 00:40
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Lets see where all current 767 drivers end up.
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 02:41
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Perhaps right where the RIN has them slotted?? Not a very good stir, you need at least SOME basis for a crazy wind up.
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 05:21
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Hotnhigh is making an obtuse reference to a particular QF 767 Captain who is rumoured to have interviewed for the JQ CP gig. I don't think they're referring to anything beyond that.
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 06:39
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Cool

Lets see where all current 767 drivers end up.
At least 2 that I know of will be very happily retired.
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 08:00
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HotnHigh

The circus you refer to is the result of a paradox of (very poor) decisions.

Take on Organisations desire to promote a business unit or individual(s) to serve the Organisations interests.

Take a business units or Individual(s) desire to be promoted to a elevated position to serve their own self Interest.

The self interest of two different parties, in the pursuit of their own agenda.

Results in an outcome worse for the organisation, than if the two parties choose not to pursue their own self interest concurrently.

There are examples of this paradox littered in the corridors of many organisations.

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Old 18th Sep 2014, 09:58
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Ahhhh gotcha. That will (possibly) be interesting then.

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Old 19th Sep 2014, 22:14
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I would love to be a fly on the wall on day 1 when inquiries are made as to the location of the Chief Pilot's office. No Mahogany Row at Victoria Parade!
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Old 19th Sep 2014, 23:49
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So can anyone elaborate on who the candidate is?
 
Old 20th Sep 2014, 00:42
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If you work in QF, then you probably have a fair idea of who she is.
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 02:24
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'Aspirant' or candidate?
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 12:23
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" I would love to be a fly on the wall on day 1 when inquiries are made as to the location of the Chief Pilot's office. No Mahogany Row at Victoria Parade!"

Boy - you guys are really out of touch with QF these days. No one in Flight Ops has an office any more. We're trying to be more like you - we even have old aeroplanes (not so much like you )
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 12:36
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Admittedly the last time I saw the Qantas CP's office was in 2004, but from my recollection he still had an office with a personal assistant. The Jetstar CP gets none of those. I guarantee if the rumours become fact there will be a big culture shock.
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Old 20th Sep 2014, 23:10
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Don't worry, Mahogany Row has become Meerkat Alley.
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