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Old 6th Jul 2014, 09:10
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ANZ captain locks copilot out from cockpit?

Just got an email saying the flight crew on Air New Zealand flight from Perth to Auckland ? got grounded after the captain locked the copilot out from the cockpit while enroute. The Effoh had to use alternative procedures to gain access to the flight deck.
The reason was apparently "tension" between the two.

Must have been a cosy flight.
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Old 6th Jul 2014, 09:15
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Mid-air drama on Air NZ flight - National - NZ Herald News
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Old 6th Jul 2014, 09:34
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I have to agree with comply plot above, the incident was handled by the company and appropriate measures taken. What is that saying about glass houses etc.
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Old 6th Jul 2014, 09:38
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Not a lot of facts have been made clear, and anything in the News media is inherently wrong anyway, I would say this is a blown up story, 2 mins meh, 20 mins, yeah. The whole media bandwagon is full of it, I don't know why this was released the way it was, sounds suspicious to me....
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Hmmm and these guys are still getting through the system after completing an assessment akin, i would expect to joining NASA.

These could be the fruits of a divide and rule policy.
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Old 6th Jul 2014, 09:53
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Sorry, but where does it say that the random testing happened on the flight deck? I've only ever heard of it occurring at sign-on/flight planning.
Has happened to me twice. Both times on a turnaround the testing team came on board and DAMP tested all crew.

One occasion caused a delay, one did not.
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Old 6th Jul 2014, 10:03
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Staines disaster . . .

This event has some of the hallmarks of the BEA 548 'Staines disaster' in 1972 . . .

British European Airways Flight 548 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Quite happily agree with`Angle of Attack. For concise, calm, & absolutely correct reporting of any incident anywhere, the TV news, Newspapers etc should be the last place one should look. The only two people who know what really went on, are the two F/D, I understand & assume they have been debriefed by Air NZ.
Unfortunately, random drug testing is here to stay, yes a right pain in the rear, I accept, but it's here permanently & we have to live with it. I also totally agree, it's almost a total waste of everybody's time & as in this case, I think,throws a needless spanner into the Crew's pre flight preparation.
Over 38 years in the industry, I think my percentage of on time departures, would be somewhere about the 25% mark!
In a couple of weeks, self & herself are returning from PER to AKL on NZ 176, hope all is cleared up by then.
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Old 6th Jul 2014, 10:10
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I hear you knocking but you can't come in

I will be astonished if this story doe's not go viral. I know it can get a bit frosty up front but never so bad that a Captain locks out the 1st officer. There has to be more to this story than is presented. Doing this sort of thing is a career ending event without a bloody good excuse for all parties involved.
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Old 6th Jul 2014, 10:38
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Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem View Post
Just got an email saying the flight crew on Air New Zealand flight from Perth to Auckland ? got grounded after the captain locked the copilot out from the cockpit while enroute.
there's already 2 or 3 other threads on this topic.

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...ml#post8551022

http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-...ma-air-nz.html

http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-...rm-action.html
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Old 6th Jul 2014, 19:42
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If 2 mins. Is true methinks a bit more to this. Eg f/o trying to drop the capt in it for some hidden agenda. If capt actualy wanted to stop f/o he can override those other means. I suspect he was busy & possibly did not want to press crew call & change tx/rx on the audio selector panel. Now if 20 mins that is different ' I'd expect ANZ to have taken a dimmer view.
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Old 6th Jul 2014, 20:56
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Wait outside

I may be confusing my Part 121 with CAA Air Law, but preventing a required crew member from exercising his duties is called a 'Hijack' is it not. Sadly if true, a little more than 2 weeks at home in the garden is due. This is loss of medical territory, and in the US at least, a very early Christmas for the legal profession...
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