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Old 29th Apr 2014, 11:29
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So what was the fire response like? PER fire rescue seem to me to be a very professional bunch….how did they tackle the problem? after all evacuated did they douse the lot with more jet fuel and remove one more quadrapuff from existence?
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Old 29th Apr 2014, 11:31
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You're a troll, but I'll answer your question nonetheless.

In short, it doesn't say that, but that's intentional.
We're talking journalists here. Through tricky wording, he/she is trying to make the travelling public feel like the incident has something to do with them, even though it actually doesn't. They just want to cause a stir.
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Old 29th Apr 2014, 11:52
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I just happened to read this which might answer your question.

"The plane landed safely at 10.55am and all on board are OK," the spokeswoman said.


"As a precaution, aviation rescue firefighters turned out to the tarmac and followed the plane as they taxied into position."


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Old 29th Apr 2014, 12:02
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"Power turbine" ? Seriously?
Yes, seriously. Do a google search and report back...
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Old 29th Apr 2014, 12:17
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DD,

Yes Journalists, those no nothings whereas us Pilots know everything about anything; flying a/c, airline management etc.
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Old 29th Apr 2014, 12:50
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Does this airline play the "we're all gonna die" music over the PA prior to landing?

Glad it turned out to be no big drama.
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Old 29th Apr 2014, 13:03
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Oh.... Maybe you're right. It's a helicopter engine, isn't it, so ........
My bad
As you were, sorry
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Old 29th Apr 2014, 13:07
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Well, you would hope that pilots know their left and rights
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Old 29th Apr 2014, 13:18
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Ah... the dreaded 3-engine approach.
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Old 29th Apr 2014, 14:08
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Sorry about the quality is is a screen grab from a video.

Could somebody that know more than I tell me why it looks like a sparkler?
I may have watched too many movies but i would have expected some flame
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Old 29th Apr 2014, 19:14
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All turbines in jet engines are power turbines are they not?

They extract energy from the expansion of gases to turn the compresser. Generally though you hear it used more when describing a free power turbine engine like a PT6.

I suppose though a modern high bypass twin spool engine has a free power turbine called 'N1' turning the fan....
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Old 29th Apr 2014, 20:22
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Thread-drift, but no, it's called LP (N1) HP (N2) in jet engines.
'Power Turbine' is for turboprop or helicopter things (which is where Lycombing put this thing first.....so they stuck with it I guess, even though the term is as redundant as the component it drove )
Still, much caution should be taken if using the word 'Power' and '146' in the same sentence
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Old 29th Apr 2014, 21:52
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Slameye,

I've only seen one bit of footage, showing sparks not fire, as such. My impression is that a bearing or bearings failed causing metal on metal grinding of the spinning parts, and the result was what one sees with an angle grinder, a shower of sparks.

Time will tell.
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A still picture on the TV news last night showed the rear section of the engine missing large bits of the upper section. That section is only fairly thin and if melting away would cause that "sparkler' effect. Loved the comment on the news from one of the pax "Just like a sparkler ...bit a BIG one"
There also looked like a big hole in the nacelle at around the 2 o'clock position where something appears to have come out!
Edit ..found the picture on Incident: Cobham RJ1H at Perth on Apr 29th 2014, uncontained engine failure

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Old 30th Apr 2014, 03:08
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Definitely a "bring-me-my-dark-brown-corduroy-trousers" moment for the pax sitting next to the failed engine - and I must say, after reading the comments on turbine blades letting go on the AvHerald site, it surprises me that there doesn't appear to be a containment shield on these engines, against any stray blades that could easily penetrate the fuselage.
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Old 30th Apr 2014, 04:06
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Originally Posted by onetrack
there doesn't appear to be a containment shield on these engines
That depends on how you look at it. The containment shield may well have worked well, only letting out a small amount of stuff. After all, even state-of-the-art donks don't do a perfect job of containment, the No 2 roller on QF 32 being a good example.

I was impressed by the captain's voice; the lowest in the business didn't even lift an octave. Nothing scares an old-timer!
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Old 30th Apr 2014, 09:41
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Yeah, good job to the crew!
This stuff is never fun, so well handled!
Must have been tough for the cabin staff too, so again well done
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Old 30th Apr 2014, 10:57
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Just had Kevin F$%#ing Reynolds ranting and raving about their fleet and engines don't just catch fire and he doesn't want it to happen again.
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Old 30th Apr 2014, 12:10
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Kevin Reynolds is nothing more than a union thug who represents the dinosaurs of the union movement. Very little that comes out of his foul mouth is worth listening to.
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Old 1st May 2014, 03:51
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Folks... How about we just wait for the report to be published..My "Guess" is that the Bleed band actuator and or associated plumbing or linkages have broken..
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