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The way we were - Ansett, TAA, Qantas

Old 8th Jul 2015, 12:37
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Well, on one visit, and for a number of reasons, I had "slept in" on my departure day and waaaay past checkout time. The reception desk hadn't checked before giving my room to a newly arrived guest who opened the door only to find that there were a couple still inside lacking attire and in a compromising position.
A firm but polite phone call had us poolside with our friends and a story with a few laughs.
Well and truly cleaned up, but one of several memorable stories of stays at the Sky Lodge.
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Old 9th Jul 2015, 10:59
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Nadi Transit Hotel is its current name
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Old 9th Jul 2015, 11:43
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Horny as all hell, closely followed by the 727-200.
It was horny alright, but nothing beats a 727 takeoff (especially off 05 at ADL full load to DRW). Went something like this...

Set your speakers up full volume.
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Old 10th Jul 2015, 06:07
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You gotta love the Whispering T Jet.
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Old 10th Jul 2015, 06:21
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Don't 'flame' me but it's easy to understand why airport curfews were introduced. That said, it's past time that the issue of curfews and noise abatement were revisited.
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Old 10th Jul 2015, 11:07
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You gotta love the Whispering T Jet.
Yep, this particular T Jet is near 'n dear to me heart....

And not forgetting the first kero burner I fell in love with earlier....

Them's were the days - jets with good-sounding grunt and a graceful signature of burnt kero behind!
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 13:02
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Or the sound of the Nine. The sexiest little aircraft ever. I loved her uncondtionally.
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 13:22
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It grated, but thank you anyway.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 00:45
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The Good Old Days of TAA, I remember them well...

It is not often that an airline gives you the use of an aircraft for a couple of weeks to wander around Australia on a sight seeing tour, but back in May of 67 that is virtually what happened.

I was a F.27 F/O at the time and received a telephone call from a senior TAA captain – now deceased - to inquire as to whether or not I would be interested in doing such a flight. Needless to say, my reply was a resounding, “Yes.”

It started with a lunch at the prestigious Athenaeum Club in Melbourne ostensibly to meet a guy called Bill, the then Chairman of The Manufacturer’s Group of Victoria (TMG) to discuss the planned flight, but in reality I think it was more about being able to pass muster. Choice of the two Flight Attendants to make up the crew was left up to the captain. I have to add that he made a very good choice.

We departed Melbourne for Williamstown on the morning of the 24th flying VH-TFL a Mark 2 F.27 on what was to become the first leg of an unforgettable trip.

On arrival we were bussed to Newcastle for a tour of the foundry and steel works followed by lunch with the city’s dignities. Early in the trip it was made quite clear that the crew were to be included in all tours and hospitality afforded. Later in the afternoon we carried on to Brisbane for a night stop.

Day two took us to Townsville and Mount Isa for a tour of what at the time was the largest copper mining and smelting operation in the country.

By this time we were only using two of the four hotel rooms booked for crew accommodation, and the captain and I were most certainly not sharing…

Darwin was next on the list and with multiple tours and events to attend we stayed for two nights.

We departed Darwin early on day six, stopping first at Kununarra for a look at the Ord Dam and river system, before flying on to Derby for a tour of the Windjana Gorge National Park.

Day seven was a busy day, flying first to Port Hedland, named after the Master of the sailing vessel Mystery which arrived off the coast in 1863. After viewing the ore loading facilities it was off to the mine at Mount Tom Price itself.

Now you have to remember that this was back in 1967 and whilst the mine and the rail to the coast were established and operational, it was still early days. The airstrip at Tom Price was made of compacted red ore tailings and the surrounding country desert like.

Now the F.27 didn’t have an APU and the OAT was already in the 30s, and in spite of urging them otherwise our two hosties decided that they had enough of looking at mines and were going to stay aboard the aircraft, and use the time to wash each others hair.

Leaving them to their chosen endeavours we boarded the tour bus and headed off to view the mine. About thirty minutes later we arrived at the workers accommodation area and to our surprised found that we parked alongside a ladies hair salon.

Later on returning to the aircraft, which by now was baking in the p.m. sun we didn’t have the heart to tell the girls that they could have spent the time having their hair done and relaxing in air-conditioned comfort.

That evening we left Tom Price for Carnarvon.

Day eight was probably the most interesting day for me as after a short flight to Exmouth we were going to visit, what at that time, was the very secretive U.S. Navy’s VLF Communications Base, and used for communicating with their nuclear submarines in the Indian Ocean.

On the surface the station consisted of a block house and thirteen antenna towers, the tallest called Tower Zero is 387 m (1,270 ft) tall. Six towers, each 304 metres tall, are placed in a hexagon around Tower Zero. The other six towers, which are each 364 metres tall, are placed in a larger hexagon around Tower Zero.

On entering the block house, which is just a guard room and the entrance to a lift system, we descended some distance below ground level before arriving at our destination - the main control room – which was like a scene from a James Bond movie.

I was particularly interested in the Helix Room, in effect a massive loading coil enabling the transmission of a massive 1 megawatt 19.8 kHz signal from that surface antenna array.

After spending another night in Carnarvon it was off to Perth where everyone enjoyed a couple of free days.

Over the remaining four days we flew to Kalgoorlie, Forrest, Whyalla and Broken Hill visiting mining and ship building enterprises and throughout the trip enjoyed fine foods and the best of wine.

Arriving Melbourne on the evening of day fourteen having logged a total of twenty hours of flight time we bid our passengers fair well, and kissed our girls for the final time.

Yes, those were the days...

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Old 12th Jul 2015, 01:31
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Just kissed?

Come on spill.....
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 01:49
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My goodness ACMS.

Are you insinuating that we did " naughty " things with the Hosties in those days ?? NEVER , well hardly ever , well sometimes . One must remember , it was the swinging sixties and things were quite liberal when it came to enjoying the opposite sexes company.
What wonderful days they were !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just a distant memory now but a very pleasant one.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 04:26
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When I was an F/O, I always thought it was the Skipper who got lucky. When I got the forth stripe, nothing improved, so I finally realised it was the Flighty putting in the hard yards, as he popped down the back ( for technical reasons) as we two dumbos sat up the front working, he was setting himself up for the night. No wonder they got rid of them.
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Old 8th Aug 2015, 01:25
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Fokker F.27 VH-FNQ

This aeroplane is with the Queensland Air Museum at Caloundra. Unfortunately it is missing its original Fokker data plate. It was probably removed circa 2007 when it was decided that the aeroplane (by then VH-WAN) would be parted out. In such a case one might hope to find the data plate with the aircraft records but it was not amongst the recently discovered Australian log books. Therefore it is likely that it was "souvenired" while the aircraft was parked at Tamworth 2001-2008. If anyone knows where it is QAM would be very pleased to get it back. No names, no pack drill.

As an aside, it is believed that this aeroplane is the longest serving aircraft of any type in Ansett ownership. It was delivered in 1966 and was owned by Ansett until close of business in 2001. Although leased out from 1989, it was owned by Ansett for its entire career.
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Old 8th Aug 2015, 12:57
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Would have thought that the DC3 ABR would have laid claim to being the oldest a/c in the fleet.

Entered service with ANA in Oct 38 and became an Ansett a/c in 57/58 when they took over ANA and was still owned by AN when the company collapsed.

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Old 9th Aug 2015, 00:23
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Yes I too thought that ABR would hold the record but the numbers don't support it.

Technically ABR did not come into Ansett ownership until 21 October 1957 when Ansett took-over ANA. ABR operated its last commercial service on 27 December 1972 although the aircraft remained in Ansett ownership right up until close of business in 2001. That's 15 years in service. If you add its ANA service that brings it up to 34 years.

F.27 VH-FNQ was in service from 1966 to 2001 which is 35 years, all in Ansett ownership. The only other contender that I can think of is Sandringham VH-BRC but that was in service for a mere 22 years.

It surprised me too.

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Old 10th Aug 2015, 10:47
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The smell of the breakfast. The thud thud thud as you taxied out after overnighting in a winter Hobart. I was a junior burger in those days but it seems like only yesterday.
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Old 8th Sep 2015, 13:41
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Peter Korsman

Captain Peter Korsman passed away at 1000 this morning, 8 Sept. Known to so many of you, and in command of the above aircraft, many times, Peter was a Lancaster bomber pilot who made it home, despite being injured on more then one occasion. He then went on to become one of TAA's finest. A keen fisherman, Peter was known for turning up at Flt Ops with a bag full of fish, and some hapless crew would have to fly around with their fish all day, counting on the goodwill of the flight attendants to keep them cold. Funeral on the 17 Sept, probably in BNE. Will post details when they come to hand. RIP Peter, it was a pleasure to fly with you.
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 06:41
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The way we were - Ansett,TAA,QANTAS

Hi Centaurus,
would you remember the 34 Sqn VIP Viscount radio callsigns?
I have A6-435 as VM-NSL but I don't have A6-436.
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Old 23rd Sep 2015, 00:03
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Those photos above......wow.

There's never been an aeroplane like my beloved 777....just wonderful.....do anything, anywhere.

BUT despite that......there's just NOTHING like those two, the 727 and the DC9. Such an absolute privilege to have much time in both front seats on each of the aircraft pictured. And of course being in my 30's when I got my command on the "9" then the 727, I knew it all. Sigh......
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Old 27th Sep 2015, 14:20
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I have A6-435 as VM-NSL but I don't have A6-436.
Sorry, Greg. Although I flew both Viscounts I haven't a clue about their call-signs. Too long ago. I do remember A6-435 had a weather radar set that could be slid up and down at the rear of the radio consol and was for a flight engineer to use. The cockpit was set up to carry an FE in USA. A second screen was for pilot use.
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