A380 flapless landing Auckland 22DEC
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A380 flapless landing Auckland 22DEC
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EK406 did a flapless landing at AKL this afternoon after they declared they were not able to be extended. The chap on the radio said they would have a high approach speed and may require full length of 23L to roll out.
Just wondering what sort of Vref a A380 with 527pob might have for a flapless landing?
Anyone have that sort of info handy?
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EK406 did a flapless landing at AKL this afternoon after they declared they were not able to be extended. The chap on the radio said they would have a high approach speed and may require full length of 23L to roll out.
Just wondering what sort of Vref a A380 with 527pob might have for a flapless landing?
Anyone have that sort of info handy?
Cheers
S2k
165 to 170ish depending of weight.
165 to 170ish depending of weight.
Pulled it off by A10 to boot.. with no hint of a brake fire....
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What is even more impressive is the typical FAS crossing the threshold at about 120kts...
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Would be unusual to be totally flap less wouldn't it?
There are flaps and slats and leading edge devices everywhere on those things.
What failure would take out all of them?
There are flaps and slats and leading edge devices everywhere on those things.
What failure would take out all of them?
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Pardon my ignorance, I am not a transport category pilot and this is my first post here.
What issues might there be with deployment of just the slats and no flaps? Any unusual pitch attitude or other things to be considered?
What issues might there be with deployment of just the slats and no flaps? Any unusual pitch attitude or other things to be considered?
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What issues might there be with deployment of just the slats and no flaps? Any unusual pitch attitude or other things to be considered?
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pitch attitudes
If Clarrie and his mates could fly without the autopilot and flight director, I'm sure that they would notice that the pitch attitudes down finals would be quite different between a clean wing, slats only and normal landing configuration...
If I'm wrong, I'm sure he'll tell me and quote the pitch attitudes at Vref for each configuration quoted!
If I'm wrong, I'm sure he'll tell me and quote the pitch attitudes at Vref for each configuration quoted!
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The approach speed is increased to Vref plus 30ish to keep the nose a bit lower for approach and landing to improve tail strike margain for landing. So the attitude would be around 7 degrees nose up instead of the normal 2.5 degrees nose up on finals. Only a little flare would be needed.
Brake to vacate won't work, so a normal autobrake setting would be used.
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The approach speed is increased to Vref plus 30ish to keep the nose a bit lower for approach and landing to improve tail strike margain for landing. So the attitude would be around 7 degrees nose up instead of the normal 2.5 degrees nose up on finals. Only a little flare would be needed.
Brake to vacate won't work, so a normal autobrake setting would be used.
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EDit: Vref is 20kts slower than a 777
How much heavier would the later A380 models have been if the aircraft hadn't been a colossal manufacturing failure?