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Old 13th Jun 2014, 13:00
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"Your wrong about the A380 of course, but as you are losing some of your flying I see you have adopted the normal course of action of QF mainline FAs in slagging off and lying about anything that doesnt meet your self interest.

Reminds me of the lies about the BKK FA basing (when it was running) and the ongoing slander you and your boiler mates indulge in with respect to the London Base Cabin Crew."

You are right, we are losing the flying to DFW as it will be 380 flying. There are 12 380's. There are no new additions of the 380 to the fleet so where are the 380's coming from, maybe HKG flying and I guess these flights will now be non A380 planes. Guess who will be crewing them.
Mohican, you seem to be very angry with cabin crew. Hope it wasn't that knock back from the Sydney hostie that is causing your animosity.
I said that the 380 is a better plane 'from' DFW. It has first class plus it carries more j/c and w/c so can earn bucket loads more $$$ per seat. The 747 cannot operate DFW BNE with full economy load, usually 50 seats blocked out.
Does anyone out there actually know if the 380 is weight restricted as well?
Mohican, get over it!
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 03:41
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Will be interesting to see if the coming upheaval in Iraq and by association the Middle East starts to impact further on QF loads via Dubai....
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 09:26
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Will be interesting to see if the coming upheaval in Iraq and by association the Middle East starts to impact further on QF loads via Dubai....
Dont know about you, but I wouldn't fly to any Muslim country, even for transit.
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 09:33
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Dont know about you, but I wouldn't fly to any Muslim country, even for transit.
Ah, heartwarming to be reminded that Xenophobia is alive and well in our bogan nation.
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 09:36
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Ah, heartwarming to be reminded that Xenophobia is alive and well in our bogan nation.
You fly there if you want, but I wont, You got a problem with that?
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 10:57
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Who would fly to ANY country with civil conflict (no matter what the authorities say) if they didn't have to?
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 11:38
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The argument is irrelevant. Qantas had the longest history in the world of flying to Europe through Asia. It was safe, well known, viewed with affection and as a right of passage by the Australian public. 70 odd years and major world wars out with the bath water and in the same genius stroke why not alienate every single Eastern Suburbs resident of Sydney.

I will fly to Europe through Asia. Because, 1) I don't want to change 2) I Don't like gross bling and 3) I won't support an idiot and an idiots board.

Religion and gross racism and sexism doesn't play any part in my decisions, but I can guarantee it would with some.

There was NOTHING wrong with the status quo.
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 11:47
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Oops - entity confusion

Just to correct some glaring errors - it's China Eastern that is involved in Jetstar Hong Kong NOT China Southern.

Whilst the names might seem slightly confusing to parochial Australians - in China, this is the equivalent of confusing United with Delta, or British Airways with Air France.

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Old 14th Jun 2014, 12:36
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HIALS...thanks for the gratuitous assumption about my nature. Parochial I am not. Rather, disheartened to the point that the exact name of each of Joyce's puppets is irrelevant. So China Eastern then.

The rest if the narrative stands, but the exact identity of the eventual beneficiary of Joyce's incredible naiveté is less important than the fact of the failure.
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 13:22
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Gratuitous or Glaring

Dear hominid,

I didn't mean offence - however, it is a glaring error. China Southern is the fifth largest airline in the world. To confuse such a megalithic carrier with its arch rival, from a parochial point of view, is akin to stating that Virgin Australia owns Jetstar. It shows ignorance.

I notice that you didn't graciously accept the 'ping' - which would have allowed the focus to remain on the narrative and preserved your credibility as genuine, if fallible.

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Old 14th Jun 2014, 14:27
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Does anyone out there actually know if the 380 is weight restricted as well?
No, it won't be up to the high 30's.

The 380 can launch at max weight from a 4000m runway, nil wind, 600ft amsl at Max weight up to about 38*C.
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Old 15th Jun 2014, 02:35
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Jetstar Japan slowing down aircraft deliveries

Meanwhile J* Japan

Japan slowing down aircraft deliveries

The three new LCCs – Peach, Jetstar and Vanilla – carried 6% of traffic. While depressed from the AirAsia/Vanilla switch, it marks a start for the first carriers to eliminate all frills, unlike predecessors such as Skymark, which alone carried 7% of traffic. The adoption to LCCs in Japan is slow, and there were some early painful lessons, but growth is near-guaranteed.

Jetstar Japan added nearly as many seats as JAL while Peach added nearly as many seats as ANA. Meanwhile ANA and JAL project long-term decreases in Japan's domestic market. Further, Jun-2014 sees the launch of Spring Airlines Japan with domestic flights and in the future international services, mainly to China. This is the first (but will not be the last) international JV for China's Spring Airlines. AirAsia is also looking to re-enter. However, five new LCCs plus three existing mean excessive market fragmentation.

Although it may challenge the epithet that airlines never die in Japan, consolidation is in order. But more importantly, until prevailing legacy attitudes are redirected towards supporting economic expansion goals, LCCs will continue to labour under unnecessary handicaps.



Jetstar Japan slowing down aircraft deliveries | CAPA - Centre for Aviation
My take, growth is one thing profit quite another... there must be additional costs associated with the start up of a second hub... not good timing for AJ and the coming reporting period... how will they dress up this part of the amazing business....? He will probably have the urge to load it all on Qantas International as if it is all their fault, again. Of course AJ has the full support of the board which must be a comfort to him... amaaazing...



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Old 15th Jun 2014, 07:19
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TIMA9X

It's ALL about growth with regard to airframe numbers.

And less about the profit of the airline.

Recall that JQ Japan is owned by Qantas, Mitsubishi & Century Leasing.

And the rumour for who leases aircraft to Jetstar Japan?

Qantas, Mitsubishi & Century Leasing.

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Old 15th Jun 2014, 07:43
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Yeah I do. Yours is the typically ignorant mindset that causes so many problems
So it's my mindset causing the problems in Iraq and Afghanistan at the moment, please explain?
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Old 15th Jun 2014, 09:40
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nah thats the seppos
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 22:27
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Politicians, like business people, rarely claw above 60th spot, averaging 4.1 out of 10 on the trust score. This year, independent senator Nick Xenophon was deemed Australia's most trusted pollie in 68th spot. Former prime minister Kevin Rudd came in at 76 while Prime Minister Tony Abbott was 79th. Clive Palmer came in at 90 out of 100, one spot ahead of Rolf Harris.


The nation's richest person, businesswoman Gina Rinehart came 93rd, ahead of Vatican insiderGeorge Pell, Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce, radio entertainer Kyle Sandilands, bookie Tom Waterhouse and businessman Geoffrey Edelsten.
Hmm, it's a trust thing..
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 22:41
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Dick Smith in the top 10.
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Old 17th Jun 2014, 03:54
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Arnold E - so you won't fly via Indonesia, Malaysia or Singapore then?

(the Singapore flag has the muslim crescent & stars on it due to the large malay community ISTR)
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Old 17th Jun 2014, 04:14
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Singapore is 14% Muslim.

34% Buddhism, 18% Christian.

Singapore - Pew-Templeton Global Religious Futures Project
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Old 17th Jun 2014, 04:48
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Why would you want to fly anywhere via Indonesia?
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