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Old 3rd Oct 2014, 07:20
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Hrdlicka, one of Australia's most influential business persons.

The devils in the detail, these people are all about self promotion.

Of the 100 people who were nominated for the AFR title, approximately 30% where "self nominated".

Amongst the remaining 70%, a lot were nominated by spouses or friends.

Although Hrdlicka is the JQ CEO, I noted her "Business Organisation" was actually listed as Qantas.

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Old 3rd Oct 2014, 08:27
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Thanks, I didn't know that. But I'm even more pissed off. It just proves you don't have to have a long neck and feathers to be a goose!!!!
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Old 3rd Oct 2014, 15:56
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Is the Qantas group excuse machine revving up before the AGM?

The devils in the detail, these people are all about self promotion.

Of the 100 people who were nominated for the AFR title, approximately 30% where "self nominated".

Amongst the remaining 70%, a lot were nominated by spouses or friends.

Although Hrdlicka is the JQ CEO, I noted her "Business Organisation" was actually listed as Qantas.
Thanks MC and a very interesting take on the situation... now is a good time to review what has been said by our "influential business persons" in the press...

Asia is anything but a distraction": Jetstar chief executive Jayne Hrdlicka
Consumer sentiment weak, says Jetstar chief


Qantas' budget offshoot, Jetstar, concedes consumer sentiment remains weak as it battles Tigerair for price-sensitive leisure travellers in the domestic market.


The difficult trading conditions come as Qantas reached an in-principle agreement with the pilots' union for a new four-year deal covering short-haul pilots, which includes an effective pay freeze for 18 months.
Speaking in Sydney on Friday, Jetstar chief executive Jayne Hrdlicka said capacity was moderating in the domestic market but consumers' appetite to spend had shown no sign of picking up since earlier this year.



Jetstar boss Jayne Hrdlicka concedes demand for the airline's domestic services has been disappointing. Photo: Ben Rushton



"We have not seen an improvement. Capacity is rationalising [but] underlying demand is not growing at the pace we would love to see it," she said at the American Chamber of Commerce.


"There is no doubt that we see a weak consumer environment. That is coming through in retail numbers, too."
While the focus has been on Qantas and Virgin Australia in the domestic market, the battle between Jetstar and Tigerair has been just as intense.
Weak consumer sentiment weighs on the performance of the two budget airlines more than their full-service parents.


Virgin has dampened expectations for the expansion of Tigerair in the domestic market, and Ms Hrdlicka indicated Jetstar would also be "very disciplined" when it came to growth.


She highlighted the fact that Singapore-based Jetstar Asia resisted the temptation to follow its competitors in south-east Asia in significantly boosting capacity over the past two years.
Virgin does not expect Tigerair Australia, in which it has a 60 per cent stake, to become profitable until 2017.


Jetstar sunk to a $116 million underlying loss last financial year, from a $138 million profit a year earlier, due to stiff competition in air-travel markets in Australia and south-east Asia, as well as higher costs from its offshoots Jetstar Japan and Jetstar Hong Kong.


Meanwhile, Qantas' short-haul pilots will begin voting on October 17 on whether to accept a new pay deal, which includes a 3 per cent annual wage increase for the first three years and a 1.5 per cent rise for the fourth.


Negotiations over a new pay deal have been dragging on for more than two years.
Under the terms of the in-principle agreement, the pilots will not receive back pay, which will count as an effective pay freeze similar to that for other parts of the airline's workforce.
Qantas is hopeful of sealing an agreement, but some pilots question whether their colleagues will support the deal.
Earlier this week, the licensed aircraft engineers' union said its members were likely to accept an in-principle deal reached with Qantas for a new enterprise agreement covering about 1500 staff.


As part of a side deal, about 65 engineers who were forced to take redundancy this year would have the chance to return to Qantas.
The pay freezes are a significant part of Qantas' goal to strip $2 billion in costs from the company over three years.
Hmm, a slight change of tactics since this blue skies story back in May... which kind of catches her out..... keep promising the world but always delivering an Atlas, so far...

a few quotes..

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

Jetstar’s chief sees blue skies ahead
The next decade is really exciting for Jetstar because all of the things we’ve done to set ourselves up for success are going to start paying off dividends over the next 10 years as the foundations we set start to really come to life,’’ she said.

“And it all comes down to really being clear about each market we’re working in and what it takes to be successful in that market, thinking about that market through the eyes of our customers in that marketplace and our *people in that marketplace because that’s what drives great outcomes.’’
“We’ve changed the face of aviation in Australia, we’ve changed the face of aviation in every market we’re currently operating in,’’ she says, noting the change is not always comfortable for established industry participants.
The US-born former Bain consultant does not dismiss increased domestic competition from Tigerair Australia under the umbrella of Virgin Australia, but says Jetstar’s main focus remains its own business.


“For us, competition’s great,’’ she says. “It does sharpen the mind, it keeps everybody focused. We all understand that low fares are part of the story. We’ve got to earn the right to our customers’ loyalty every day we fly.’’
She agrees the Singapore market, where the group is a 49 per cent partner in locally based Jetstar Asia, is flooded with too much capacity that will take “a couple of years” to absorb even if the various players take a measured approach.


“We announced February that we were suspending growth in Singapore and very shortly after AirAsia announced they were pulling back and Tiger announced they were pulling back,’’ she says. “So I think there’s recognition across all players that there’s too much capacity in the marketplace and that needs to be soaked up.” chuckle, that's funny!
Wow, talk about hedging your (bonus) bet excuses.....

I wish she would own up and say... there are too many (JQ?) airframes in the market and we will be handing some of them back to Qantas mainline who have been funding this amazing adventure since conception... anyway..

http://www.smh.com.au/business/aviat...25-10ltyz.html

What's pleasing, is the good news about the engineers, good to see, and a huge step in the right direction.

I can't help thinking all this is happening to ensure a blissful cruise through the coming AGM.... and again, no one asks too many hard Questions,..... you see, "it's not their fault...." you only have to watch this video again and combine it with what JH just said above.... for me, not convincing, I don't know what to believe anymore, it's still all a bit scary.



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Old 3rd Oct 2014, 20:57
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He just never, ever answers the accusations. It's amazing to watch.
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Old 3rd Oct 2014, 22:43
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Thanks for ruining my weekend Tima, that face could turn me off breathing!


I think AJ is the only person I have ever seen who can speak while crossing his whole mouth...
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Old 4th Oct 2014, 00:35
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we’ve changed the face of aviation in every market we’re currently operating in,’’
And how exactly have they done that? Does she means we're the only airline in the world that went into a market and then parked the fleet?
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Old 4th Oct 2014, 00:42
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Tima

JH says consumer sentiment is weak.

Other news agencies say (Jetstar's) consumer sentiment is weak due foreign competition.

A week ago JQ were denying they were reducing Darwin services to Bali.

Roll forward a week & they confirm half the DRW-DPS services are cancelled.

But the great news for those in the NT is, you can fly one stop to DPS as follows.

DRW-SIN-DPS

The writing was on the wall for Australian Domiciled LCC operations out of DRW a long time ago. You could get return airfares & accommodation to Bali with a foreign LCC for the same price of the JQ return ticket.

The JQ theme is repetitive. Announce a new route with all the fan fare only to pull out when the numbers don't look good. The Perth to Lombok is another good example.
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Old 4th Oct 2014, 01:30
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What an AMAAAAZING business. Apparently last year they made a profit of $138 million. This year a loss of $116 million. Cost shifting anyone???
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Old 4th Oct 2014, 02:59
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What?

He says we lost $600m because of overcapacity
when questions on the fact that HE created the overcapacity he says
It is required to maintain "competitiveness" the network (not sure
how that relates to capacity) the frequency, yeah well derr!
and apparently these factors are "key" to profitability?

What?

is he talking about NEGATIVE profitability?
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Old 4th Oct 2014, 03:12
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The problem is the Qantas Group is running two airlines.

With duplicated schedules & excess capacity & the required back house & management processes to support the duplication.

Look no further than the SYD-MEL route.

Mainline & JQ are operating duplicate services & it's costing them a fortune. Then multiply that network wide.

Blind Freddy could have told you running one airline with "two great brands" is a poor choice of resource & equipment allocation. Look no further than Air NZ and its profitability after absorbing the Freedom Airline back into its mainline operation.

I maintain the position, JQ was born in the heady days pre GFC when making money was easy.

Times have changed & I don't think the QF group can afford the luxury of running two separate brands.

Like John Slossar from Cathay Pacific once said. The low cost seats are at the tail end of economy.

The likes of JH & AJ will never talk JQ down, who would buy or invest in it then?
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Old 4th Oct 2014, 04:09
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Overcapacity is as a result of his decisions.

Increased fuel bill is a result of his lack of correct decisions

The arrogance and blind denial of this man is astounding

Ps it seems jetstar is no longer Amaaaaaazing , it's phenomenal!
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Old 4th Oct 2014, 05:20
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An in principle agreement with Qantas Shorthaul Pilots
What a load of bollocks, yes there has been an offer, but not covered here on PPRuNe interestingly , but make no mistake it will be shot down with a comprehensive NO vote, no doubt about that. I expect 85/15 ratio NO/YES.

As for Hrdlicka replace the "hard Yakka " with her name and it's an apt commercial,


It's Hard Yakka making light of a massive loss making enterprise...
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Old 4th Oct 2014, 06:55
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He just never, ever answers the accusations. It's amazing to watch
Sure! It's now clear why he is there, he's a great salesman/cover for a board with little airline experience.

By the way, the amazing gain in the share price after the 2.8 billion loss announcement AJ was so proud of has already more than halved,

....

What?

He says we lost $600m because of overcapacity
when questions on the fact that HE created the overcapacity he says
It is required to maintain "competitiveness" the network (not sure
how that relates to capacity) the frequency, yeah well derr!
and apparently these factors are "key" to profitability?

What?

is he talking about NEGATIVE profitability?
Well said, that's the message I get as well, but the institutional investors still remain quiet as does ASIC. It appears they are all in on something the rest of the market don't have a clue about, sadly an emerging pattern for Corporate Australia these days.


Qantas chairman Leigh Clifford told a business lunch late last month that “the days of directors sitting on five boards could be over”, while former Telstra chief Ziggy Switkowski, who now sits on four listed company boards, says the Centro decision has confused some directors. “I sit on a few boards and know a lot of people who sit on other boards, and I can tell you we have all read the Centro decision,” he said. “People are still trying to figure out where is the demarcation between being a board member and being a member of the executive team.” Surprises in most powerful directors
Of course in the true James Strong tradition, Hrdlicka is now also a member of the Woolworths board.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/jetst...722-zvqqb.html

It appears the board at Qantas are more interested in running its FF program Qantas teams up with Woolworths on frequent flyer points rather than running the traditional airline. Seems to be a lot of people good at bean counting and not too many with long term airline management experience..

Board of Directors | Qantas

for example, Mr Rayner is Chairman of Treasury Wine Estates Limited... look how they have been travelling.

Mr Hounsell is Chairman of PanAust Limited and Investec Global Aircraft Fund, and is a Director of DuluxGroup Limited, Spotless Group Holdings Limited, Treasury Wine Estates Limited and Ingeus Limited.
Treasury Wines profit savaged by new strategy

Treasury Wine CEO steps down after Board review | Australian Food News

Hard to believe these guys have the time to provide good service to the Qantas business considering all the other fires they need to attend to...

I don't have the time to go through all of it, but it's my view the board has too many people who appear to be more interested in looking after themselves rather than fully understanding the core business at Qantas leaving the day to day running of the business to the sales persons, AJ, JH & Co.

Under these circumstances, I feel sorry for you all..

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Barbara Ward is the current Associate Club Champion at the Australian Golf Club. Where does she find the time?
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Outstanding posts guys, keep the insights coming. Qf management is a complete basket case but journo's don't know enough to comment unless it's spelt out for them in language a 3yo would understand.




This is now getting to some lovely nitty gritty detail that cannot be denied.


Keep up the fantastic work. Someone, somewhere may yet ask that odious mouth crossing Irish Import if he does actually own a single stitch of clothing. And then there is the board, who actually backs incompetents with billions of shareholder dollars...
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Old 4th Oct 2014, 13:14
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Lets keep throwing more airframes into the Asian LCC experiment.

The franchises will be profitable one day.

Jetstar Japan's new A320 (MSN 6296) Took it's first test flight to Hamburg last week.

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Old 7th Oct 2014, 01:29
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I wrote a while ago about the increased utilisation on the 380 and 747 would cause problems. It now turns out that the 380 to Dallas that returned to Sydney last week was on an MEL for one pump in one tank US. The problem was the second pump I believe in that tank failed. Inadequate down time to fix I suspect. Just to prove that the lunatics are still running the asylum even thou it's quiet. Last night at 2200 they were trying to find a 767 captain to operate the 0605 flight to Darwin. Guess what? Couldn't get one. Service cancelled. Surplus of Captains on the 747, VR and two 767 Captains are doing a ground school as we speak on the 747. Is it just me or are they crazy?
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Old 7th Oct 2014, 09:14
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Just do what I do.

In this game the only certainty is your next roster and what your seniority will buy you.

Keep away from politics and get a hobby outside of work.

You feel much better.
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Old 8th Oct 2014, 22:42
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Barbara Ward is the current Associate Club Champion at the Australian Golf Club. Where does she find the time?
Ohhh so that's why we have now opened the QF golf club!

Qantas Frequent Flyers will soon be able to earn Qantas Points on the golf course when Qantas Golf Club tees off this summer.
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