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MERGED: Alan's still not happy......

Old 27th Jun 2014, 04:03
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Could someone please tell me, when JQ are stating people are choosing to fly with them on the 787 & they are most efficient when the aircraft are flying.

Why, when its now the start of the NSW school holiday. That some JQ Sydney-Denpassar services have 150 spare seats (JQ37)
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Old 27th Jun 2014, 08:49
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Long haul LCC's can only be profitable if the employees of said LCC's are on 3rd world contracts.
I believe when the A321 NEO's become available to Jetstar, they will replace B787's on DPS routes from east coast.
By this time QF crews will be so beaten into submission that they will accept a B scale contract to fly B787's on long haul routes. The Jetstar 787 could well be wound up.
Either that or Jetstar pilots will be flying Red tails.
Australian businesses cannot compete on a low cost basis with the likes of Air Asia & Lion Air.
The only option for non LCC airlines is to compete on product & reputation/loyalty programs.
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Old 27th Jun 2014, 09:54
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And the brilliance of their 'Management Teams'.

You lose the QF USP and the rest is out the door. You ******* IDIOTS!
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Old 27th Jun 2014, 11:08
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Long haul LCC's can only be profitable if the employees of said LCC's are on 3rd world contracts.
Seems simple to me, dont accept 3rd world rates.......not hard realy
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Old 27th Jun 2014, 11:46
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No you're the ********* V-Jet, for thinking Qantas could possibly survive in their legacy incarnation when all others around the world have failed. The world changes, whilst you continue to pine for a flat earth.

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Old 27th Jun 2014, 12:49
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All flights to DPs and HKt have generally been full and I'm netting between 12/13 clear a month, hardly third world wages, flying the latest aircraft out of one of the most beautiful cities in the world.
Long May it continue.
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Old 27th Jun 2014, 14:24
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I'm netting between 12/13 clear a month
Not bad coin for a SO.
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Old 27th Jun 2014, 19:18
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Qantas didnt fail, it was destroyed by people who do not understand Australia or airlines.

What they have done and are doing is a little like running McDonalds, seeing Pizza sales increasing and immediately deciding to ditch Big Macs for Pepperoni and Cheese family sized Pizza's. A brilliant strategy except McDonalds expertise is in burgers, not pizza's. All the restaurants and staff are set up and trained for making burgers and no one in the entire world associates McDonalds with Pizza.**

You spend nigh on 100 years selling and creating one thing in the marketplace and then deliberately throw it away and you immediately lose any edge you have in the marketplace. What reason do people now have to 'buy Qantas'? After 25+ years of working there, even I struggle to find one now!

I humbly suggest I'm not the one with 'Flat Earth' syndrome - I don't get paid enough for that. There are (again IMHO) parked aircraft and monuments around the world to that thinking, a spectacular example located at 203 Coward St, Mascot.





** Except McDonalds (or anyone aside from Elaine and Clifford I hope) wouldn't be stupid enough to not only make bad Pizza's, but offer their customers discount vouchers to encourage them to buy from Pizza Hut!

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Old 27th Jun 2014, 22:03
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Classic example

http://www.slideshare.net/TapishPanw...ure-1-new-coke
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 01:54
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Since the March decision to deny Qantas a debt guarantee, the politics surrounding the airline have gone quiet.
Not quiet, simmering behind closed doors, probably a good bet that Albo has been visiting a private lounge or two since March .. watch that space between now and August.
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 06:49
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QF Shrinking BNE Flights?

Heard from a couple of ground staff in Brisbane yesterday that QF rumoured to be pulling out of BNE - SIN and BNE - HKG and giving it to JQ...

Really?

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Old 29th Jun 2014, 07:15
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I've heard the same rumour too

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Old 29th Jun 2014, 07:48
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Heard from a couple of ground staff in Brisbane yesterday that QF rumoured to be pulling out of BNE - SIN and BNE - HKG and giving it to JQ...
I heard it isn't going to Jetstar but going to EK with their current service Dbx-sin-bne becoming a 380 and one of their services continuing down from hkg-bne. Either way I heard both are gone.
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 08:06
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Its an amazing business when Execs can give away the house and get nothing for it yet again.

Surely it must be time for someone to ask what is going on here OR this place is in heaps of trouble.

ps Albanese reported as giving ground on QSA issues in today's press, so he is on board with what is going to happen.
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 09:48
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That scenario with Emirates would not suprise, but do Emirates have anymore traffic rights to increase services to Australia using their own metal?
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 13:03
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What effect would a China Southern buy in (with relaxed QSA rules) have on the EK partnership?

Food for thought at the moment I'd say...
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Old 29th Jun 2014, 22:03
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The answer to your question Boe787 is no unless our dumb Government give in so we can export live sheep to the Al Maktoum Abattoirs where all the highest hygiene and labour standards are upheld(not!). 123 services a week and 137 from March 2015. The problem is there is no limit to the seats e.g. A380 services to ALL Australian capital cities including Darwin and Canberra(if it fits).That limit is the UAE which includes Etihad and Emirates.
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Old 30th Jun 2014, 01:34
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That scenario with Emirates would not suprise, but do Emirates have anymore traffic rights to increase services to Australia using their own metal?
I believe EK have no further rights into MEL, SYD, BNE or PER but can add flights to other ports.

They can upscale from 77Ws to A380s at their will provided the airport can provide them with the gates. The next logical upscale will be another of the MEL flights going to A380 probably DXB-SIN-MEL at which stage QF can be expected to further lower their services on SIN-MEL. MEL will have the A380 gate capacity with SQ moving its A380s onto Indian services.
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Old 30th Jun 2014, 09:11
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So is Alan happy now?

Its an amazing business when Execs can give away the house and get nothing for it yet again.

Surely it must be time for someone to ask what is going on here OR this place is in heaps of trouble.
Yeah, and not satisfied with his brilliant assault on the Asian market with "brand Jetstar" it appears now AJ & his "brains trust" are tinkering around with Jetstar Oz using the "roulette transformation planning method" he perfected over the last year or so.





And what did the market think on the last day of the FY?

... down 5.62 percent..




https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A...ay-of-year.JPG


Jetstar puts Uluru back on the map

Another "rock solid" strategy.

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Old 30th Jun 2014, 10:24
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May traffic figures out. Dreadful. Only good point QF international load factor up 1.6% year on year. The worst Jetstar domestic down 3.2% and jetstar international down 4.6%. Standby for August 28 and the full year results. Il go around $1.5 billion. Very ugly I think.
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