Air Niugini ATR Crash in Madang
Ando,I can't see either yours or Sierra's pics (W7, FF and IE10)
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The web site hosting the pictures indicates:
Why a RAID controller would put them off line seems strange?
You should see the pictures when the site is back on line.
Tail Wheel
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The web site hosting the pictures indicates:
Our Servers are currently offline due to the failure of the harddisk RAID controller, an IBM technician is on the way to Salzburg.
At this time we have no estimate when the server will come back online,
we do not see a chance before Tuesday Oct 22nd 2013 about 14:00Z now.
At this time we have no estimate when the server will come back online,
we do not see a chance before Tuesday Oct 22nd 2013 about 14:00Z now.
You should see the pictures when the site is back on line.
Tail Wheel
Last edited by TWT; 21st Oct 2013 at 10:18.
ATSB to assist AIC PNG
Pretty graphic pic there Ando (repeated below)!!
You can also see pics on the Air Safety Net report:Air Niugini ATR-42 goes into river after aborted takeoff, Madang, PNG
Also noted that the ATSB is assisting with analysing the CVR/FDR data
: AE-2013-184
You can also see pics on the Air Safety Net report:Air Niugini ATR-42 goes into river after aborted takeoff, Madang, PNGAlso noted that the ATSB is assisting with analysing the CVR/FDR data
: AE-2013-184
From an associate in PNG today:
talking to the people in madang,
seems like the RH engine may have been trailing smoke on take off,
the airport fire truck ran out of water within 5 min, had to wait for town engine to arrive, looters were stealing the cargo while it was still burning.....I know you will be surprised, how could that happen in PNG ???
seems like the RH engine may have been trailing smoke on take off,
the airport fire truck ran out of water within 5 min, had to wait for town engine to arrive, looters were stealing the cargo while it was still burning.....I know you will be surprised, how could that happen in PNG ???
From another thread running on Rumours and News:
"On Oct 22nd 2013 the French BEA reported in their weekly bulletin that the aircraft accelerated for takeoff from runway 25 when upon rotation the nose gear did not lift off the runway, the captain, pilot flying, said in post flight interviews the controls felt very heavy in pitch. The captain rejected takeoff, the aircraft overran the end of the runway, went down a bank of about 3 meters, continued for about 100 meters before the right wing impacted the airport perimeter fence, causing the aircraft to turn about 45 degrees, right hand engine and right outboard wing caught fire, the aircraft slid down into a small creek where it came to rest partly submerged. The cockpit voice and flight data recorder were not submerged and were recovered in good condition. The right hand wing separated from the wing and fell into the creek. The investigation is led by the Authorities of Papua New Guinea"
Which, if correct, suggests that smoke and fire was post-impact. However, if it was severely out of trim, or there was a control jam, it still seems like a late RTO was a better option than taking it into the air.
AS for the looting - just goes to show that the cargo cult is alive and well.
"On Oct 22nd 2013 the French BEA reported in their weekly bulletin that the aircraft accelerated for takeoff from runway 25 when upon rotation the nose gear did not lift off the runway, the captain, pilot flying, said in post flight interviews the controls felt very heavy in pitch. The captain rejected takeoff, the aircraft overran the end of the runway, went down a bank of about 3 meters, continued for about 100 meters before the right wing impacted the airport perimeter fence, causing the aircraft to turn about 45 degrees, right hand engine and right outboard wing caught fire, the aircraft slid down into a small creek where it came to rest partly submerged. The cockpit voice and flight data recorder were not submerged and were recovered in good condition. The right hand wing separated from the wing and fell into the creek. The investigation is led by the Authorities of Papua New Guinea"
Which, if correct, suggests that smoke and fire was post-impact. However, if it was severely out of trim, or there was a control jam, it still seems like a late RTO was a better option than taking it into the air.
AS for the looting - just goes to show that the cargo cult is alive and well.
Last edited by Mach E Avelli; 23rd Oct 2013 at 11:10.
AS for the looting - just goes to show that the cargo cult is alive and well.
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the airport fire truck ran out of water within 5 min, had to wait for town engine to arrive, looters were stealing the cargo while it was still burning
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Preliminary Report
The preliminary report is available here:
http://www.aic.gov.pg/pdf/AIC13-1007...reliminary.pdf
http://www.aic.gov.pg/pdf/AIC13-1007...reliminary.pdf
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Some basic type data – HERE - page 6 has a diagram. Can't put my hand on a -42 trim sheet, but the mathematics make some interesting 'what ifs'. Pity the load grew legs.
