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Old 10th Aug 2013, 14:37
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Air Niugini is looking at a return to Auckland and to Fiji:

http://3rdlevelnz.********.com.au/20...-auckland.html

Would they be able to reach AKL from POM in a 737-700?
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Old 11th Aug 2013, 06:11
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From great circle it is only 2228 miles. 737-700 would do it easy.
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Old 12th Aug 2013, 05:29
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The PNG Government took the 737-700 to Wellington on a direct flight last week, the 737-800 could also do the same if they choose to use it.

Could PX fly to Auckland with a stop at Brisbane, Sydney or even Nadi?

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Interesting
They could even fly via TSV as they have intentions to return to that port by the end of the year as well:
PNG PM wants Townsville-Port Moresby flights to take off - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)


The new schedule to Bali is:

OUTBOUND Port Moresby (POM) to Bali (DPS)
Flight Departure Arrival Stops Equipment Economy Business
PX394 Jacksons International Airport (POM)
18:20 | Mon, 26-Aug-13 Ngurah Rai International Airport (DPS)
21:10 | Mon, 26-Aug-13 0 Stop(s) Boeing 737


INBOUND Bali (DPS) to Port Moresby (POM)
Flight Departure Arrival Stops Equipment Economy Business
PX395 Ngurah Rai International Airport (DPS)
22:10 | Mon, 02-Sep-13 Jacksons International Airport (POM)
05:00 | Tue, 03-Sep-13 0 Stop(s) Boeing 737

A long flight also 5 hours (2 hour time difference) does not state if its the 700 or 800 operating it. By their online timetable one 737 has no flights from tuesday to thursday the other has no flights thursday so lots of space for new routes. However the 767 fleet are well used with flights on all days. So one can expect any new flights would be 737 or F100 aircraft.
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I doubt that they would gain traffic rights Aus-NZ.
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Old 12th Aug 2013, 06:31
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A bit of history. PX caused a great deal of consternation in QF BNE state office when we started to fly TSV CNS POM as we provide a direct connection at POM for SIN on one day and HKG on another day. QF State Manager complained about me personally (as PX rep in north QLD) in the TSV newspaper for drumming up business thus forcing QF to start international services out of TSV for SIN. SQ followed for a short while.
Similarly QF started services out of CNS for USA after PX provided a direct connection CNS POM HNL.
Even though PX were operating out of TSV to POM most, if not all, Charters Towers school kids returning to POM on holidays were still bussed to CNS to catch the flight!!!
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Yes indeed, It would be better to offer a non-stop service to POM as many will connect with the 767 onto Asia and 1 stop is enough 2 stops to their final destination will be too hard to sell to the public.

My guess is on POM-AKL a 737 (with similar times to the DPS flight) and on POM-TSV a F100 or Q400.
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I doubt that they would gain traffic rights Aus-NZ.
Animalclub, curious as to why you think that would be the case.

Does not the "Freedoms of the Air" apply to the route.
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We tried when we were operating POM AKL POM to go via CNS or TSV and got knocked back. We even tried to get rights for just traffic which we carried in to CNS or TSV (I forget what number freedom that is) to AKL. We did no good.

The POM AKL POM flights started out as a charter once a year over the Christamas Holiday... then to once a month charter... then a scheduled service once a week.

I was "localised" which put an end to my involvement but it went on to be extended to HKG in a tripartite agreement with NZ and CX. The agreement was negotiated incorrectly thus NZ put all their low yield AKL HKG traffic via POM - as did CX - and as PX was operating the flight the first period of the agreement they didn't make any money!!
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