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The "neanderthals" who screen, the "bogans" who sit down the back, the "meatheads" who throw bags, the "morons" who clean......all comments I have read over the time in this forum. Is it any wonder some of you don't get no respect?
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Wally I completely agree the terrorists have won, I often wonder
how many shares the Bin Laden's have in the security industry.
I was standing in the sheep pens in front of security
at yssy the other morning, and the thought occurred
to me what a target rich environment for your friendly
neighborhood suicide bomber I was standing in.
Perfect choke point to wipe out a few hundred or so
all before you've even been examined by anybody
how many shares the Bin Laden's have in the security industry.
I was standing in the sheep pens in front of security
at yssy the other morning, and the thought occurred
to me what a target rich environment for your friendly
neighborhood suicide bomber I was standing in.
Perfect choke point to wipe out a few hundred or so
all before you've even been examined by anybody
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The security at Brisbane International has taken on the task of randomly weighing carry on baggage, prior to entry into the secure/customs area.
Can not work out how they have the authority for this, especially since not 10 minutes prior the check in staff are happy to allow you to proceed.
Could not find any reference to authority to do so in the regs.
Can not work out how they have the authority for this, especially since not 10 minutes prior the check in staff are happy to allow you to proceed.
Could not find any reference to authority to do so in the regs.
Square Bear,
Whilst nothing in the regs requires them to do this also nothing precludes them from doing so.
The screeners may well be employed by BAL in which case it is little more than an additional allocated task. Pax flouting cabin bag limits has been a driver for this being done. My guess is that it is easier to resolve at the entry to the sterile area rather than at the boarding gate.
Whilst nothing in the regs requires them to do this also nothing precludes them from doing so.
The screeners may well be employed by BAL in which case it is little more than an additional allocated task. Pax flouting cabin bag limits has been a driver for this being done. My guess is that it is easier to resolve at the entry to the sterile area rather than at the boarding gate.
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especially since not 10 minutes prior the check in staff are happy to allow you to proceed.
The security at Brisbane International has taken on the task of randomly weighing carry on baggage, prior to entry into the secure/customs area.
Perhaps some people need to leave the kitchen sink at home!
If they grab that new duty with two hands and run with it I will be happy. Too often check-in and gate staff turn a blind eye to oversized carry on and then it becomes the Pursers' problem just minutes before scheduled departure. If the Purser elects to do what is legally required and have the bag transferred to the hold, they not only have one more confrontation in their day, they may well run late. Then, the gate staff who turned a blind eye will log the delay under "crew".
I hope YBBN security get stuck in
I hope YBBN security get stuck in
Could get interesting if they weigh a pilot's bag. Everything in mine is what I legally require for flight so nothing can be taken out and it weighs a tonne...
What are they going to do then? Could make for a interesting phone call if I tell ops I have to stand down because security won't let me through because they want to remove a bag that I legally require to be with me during the operation of the aircraft or the return sector if I'm paxing.
What are they going to do then? Could make for a interesting phone call if I tell ops I have to stand down because security won't let me through because they want to remove a bag that I legally require to be with me during the operation of the aircraft or the return sector if I'm paxing.
The security at Brisbane International has taken on the task of randomly weighing carry on baggage, prior to entry into the secure/customs area.
Can not work out how they have the authority for this, especially since not 10 minutes prior the check in staff are happy to allow you to proceed.
Could not find any reference to authority to do so in the regs.
Can not work out how they have the authority for this, especially since not 10 minutes prior the check in staff are happy to allow you to proceed.
Could not find any reference to authority to do so in the regs.
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As mentioned, carry on weight depends on the airline and whether J or Y class. Not that sure that the security carry the information to be so discerning.
2nd hand, was told of a rostered and uniformed tech crew member who was told his bags were too heavy, it required security supervisor intervention to allow the overnight bag and flight bag to progress to screening, , customs hall and then aircraft.
1st hand, was told I was fortunate that my flight bag and carry on bag was under weight, even after I mentioned that as being the tech crew it would not be an issue. This was totally dismissed with the comment being that the airlines get shirty if the bags are too heavy.
Anyway, I still do not see where the security guys get authority to weigh carry on. Whilst it may save problems at the gate, I just do not see the jurisdiction, and curious as to what would be the ramifications should I refuse to allow my bag/s to be put on the scales.
2nd hand, was told of a rostered and uniformed tech crew member who was told his bags were too heavy, it required security supervisor intervention to allow the overnight bag and flight bag to progress to screening, , customs hall and then aircraft.
1st hand, was told I was fortunate that my flight bag and carry on bag was under weight, even after I mentioned that as being the tech crew it would not be an issue. This was totally dismissed with the comment being that the airlines get shirty if the bags are too heavy.
Anyway, I still do not see where the security guys get authority to weigh carry on. Whilst it may save problems at the gate, I just do not see the jurisdiction, and curious as to what would be the ramifications should I refuse to allow my bag/s to be put on the scales.
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Anyway, I still do not see where the security guys get authority to weigh carry on. Whilst it may save problems at the gate, I just do not see the jurisdiction, and curious as to what would be the ramifications should I refuse to allow my bag/s to be put on the scales.
Ramifications? As tech crew you would just walk on through after politely explaining that the restrictions were only to be applied to passengers. And that would be the end of it.
No idea about Brisbane but I could guess it's very similar.
Just my two cents worth. You would hope that they would not be treating tech crew carry the same as for pax for the reasons already stated. If it is something that has just been started then I would suggest the screeners have not been briefed properly.
They are either contracted by the airline or the airport itself in which case so long as the screening requirements are being met, there is nothing to stop them being given the additional responsibility.
I remember many years ago flying SAA out of Joburg. An airline ground staffer was always at the door on the aerobridge and if in his / her opinion the cabin bag was too big it was tagged and loaded in the hold. No ifs, buts or maybes. Anyone who wanted to argue was given the option of their checked bags being unloaded and them being escorted back landside. Worked a treat.
Anyway, I still do not see where the security guys get authority to weigh carry on.
I remember many years ago flying SAA out of Joburg. An airline ground staffer was always at the door on the aerobridge and if in his / her opinion the cabin bag was too big it was tagged and loaded in the hold. No ifs, buts or maybes. Anyone who wanted to argue was given the option of their checked bags being unloaded and them being escorted back landside. Worked a treat.
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