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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 00:45
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QFlink Exodus 2.0

Rumour has it 10+ captains from BNE off to Virgin. 2008 all over again?
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 02:53
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Surely the new CP hasn't caused this has he?
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 03:00
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Are they on the CRZFO ground school are they?
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 03:03
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But what about the jets!? They're coming any day now.

Maybe that carrot is starting to look a little shrivelled and wrinkly.
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 08:18
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I was under the impression that Virgin had put a hold on recruiting until next year sometime?
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 13:33
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Not just QF Link

Word has it that a CX captain, former training captain on the 747 has left to go to RFDS Western Section on the PC-12 for life-style improvement. Derby. Go figure. The grass is always greener, even if it's mostly green cans on the dirt.

When will (globally) aviation management realise that experience and knowledge can't be bought? The RAAF went through a mass exodus in the mid 1980's, lost lots of airframes including a 707.

You have to engage your employees positively. The BBs of this world that say that a feedback of "I'd rather poo in my hands and clap than admit that I work for J******" is engagement, well, they need to be shot, first against the wall when the revolution comes.

In the meantime, as GA pilots exodus for the hopefully fullfilling, the overworked and bored of us will apply for those vacancies. Good Luck to all! (and happy new year)

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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 15:38
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Off to Virgin Mainline or Virgin/Skywest ATR ?

Will these be painted in Virgins Colours?
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 20:28
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ATR's have been in Virgin colours since there introduction last year.
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 20:40
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When will (globally) aviation management realise that experience and knowledge can't be bought? The RAAF went through a mass exodus in the mid 1980's, lost lots of airframes including a 707.
Pity they didn't learn the lesson.
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:07
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On the note of the CX pilot moving to Derby... Is there any truth to the rumour that 4 ex CX pilots left Cathay and not only moved to Karratha, but paid $1m each for the business, KFS..

If that's true, it doesn't say much for life in Cathay..
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:26
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It's true. Also, two highly experienced F/O's I used to fly with went to CareFlight/Flying Doc a year or two ago, good lads too.

Cathay has long gone down the gurgler as a worthwhile airline career, it's 15-20 years to Command, no more new base slots, a training bond...erm 'forgiveable loan', and a minimal housing package in one of the most expensive cities on the planet.

Many senior, experienced F/O's, such as those above, are tired of the aggressive management, the Hong Kong crowds and pollution, the slow career progression and no hope of a basing opportunity.

CX has more than its share of marginal performers in the C and T department, one bad day with one of these clowns and your career is seriously affected. Add to that the constant night flights and jet lag, layovers in Saudi. And the jets ain't so shiny any more because of the corrosive South China atmosphere. For some, a 'regional' or GA in the clean environment, wide open space and freedom of Oz doesn't sound that bad.

Cathay Pacific Airways to GA; who'd 'a' thunk it?

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Old 3rd Jan 2013, 00:09
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On the note of the CX pilot moving to Derby... Is there any truth to the rumour that 4 ex CX pilots left Cathay and not only moved to Karratha, but paid $1m each for the business, KFS..

If that's true, it doesn't say much for life in Cathay..
Almost a "trumour". It was 3 of them. See the KFS website.
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Old 3rd Jan 2013, 00:51
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For some, a 'regional' or GA in the clean environment, wide open space and freedom of Oz doesn't sound that bad.
Actually, compared to what you just described it sounds great!

I would rather live in Wagga and fly a Saab than live in Honkers or Dubai and fly anything. Except of course, if you wanted to make a living you would probably be better of driving a truck than flying that Saab in Wagga.
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Old 3rd Jan 2013, 01:04
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Word has it that a CX captain, former training captain on the 747 has left to go to RFDS Western Section on the PC-12 for life-style improvement. Derby. Go figure
Guess he enjoys being awake all night then.........
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Old 3rd Jan 2013, 01:05
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Rumour has it also that QFLink recently picked up an ex Emirates 777 capt, to become a 300 F/O. Grass not always greener.....
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Old 3rd Jan 2013, 01:20
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Correct, currently line training
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Old 3rd Jan 2013, 01:56
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There's more to the story ...

The CX Capt heading to the RFDS is a (relatively) junior Captain who was assigned across to the Airbus from the -400 a few years ago. He's been commuting to PER (with difficulty) while waiting for a basing (which isn't going to happen), hence the move. He's also been given grief with housing in HK, so no surprise he wants out.

His wife has recently qualified as a nurse/midwife and is going to join the RFDS too, so I'm told.

As for him getting used to night flying, he's well practiced at it. That's 90% of what we do on the Airbus. Single Pilot too, given the lack of experience most new joiners are arriving with.

Will miss flying with him. He's a good guy.
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Old 3rd Jan 2013, 03:24
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Just depends on peoples priorities, some the only goal is the shiny jet, others realise that lifestyle and family life are far more important. Some have to attain the shiny jet to realise that though!

Good one those that leave and make the move, it's a tough one but there is no point being miserable in life, far too many people in life(and flying) are like that.
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Old 3rd Jan 2013, 07:08
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Puff- it also can be 'been there done that, proved to myself I can and made more $$$ in 10 years than I can make in 30 under the Australian taxation system! Can now afford to come home and relax for the next 15 years of my flying career.' Also, the experience of life as an expat cannot be overestimated- amongst many other positives (and yes there are negatives too), you learn just how naive and sheltered the Australian world view is-it really is an island at the end of the world (and what a sheltered workshop the Australian aviation industry is). Flipside is thats what makes it a great place to live and work-when you can afford too!
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Old 3rd Jan 2013, 10:25
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Well said "That Man".
Could not agree more,particularly the "World View".
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