QFlink Exodus 2.0
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Word has it that a CX captain, former training captain on the 747 has left to go to RFDS Western Section on the PC-12 for life-style improvement. Derby. Go figure. The grass is always greener, even if it's mostly green cans on the dirt.
When will (globally) aviation management realise that experience and knowledge can't be bought? The RAAF went through a mass exodus in the mid 1980's, lost lots of airframes including a 707.
You have to engage your employees positively. The BBs of this world that say that a feedback of "I'd rather poo in my hands and clap than admit that I work for J******" is engagement, well, they need to be shot, first against the wall when the revolution comes.
In the meantime, as GA pilots exodus for the hopefully fullfilling, the overworked and bored of us will apply for those vacancies. Good Luck to all! (and happy new year)
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When will (globally) aviation management realise that experience and knowledge can't be bought? The RAAF went through a mass exodus in the mid 1980's, lost lots of airframes including a 707.
You have to engage your employees positively. The BBs of this world that say that a feedback of "I'd rather poo in my hands and clap than admit that I work for J******" is engagement, well, they need to be shot, first against the wall when the revolution comes.
In the meantime, as GA pilots exodus for the hopefully fullfilling, the overworked and bored of us will apply for those vacancies. Good Luck to all! (and happy new year)
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When will (globally) aviation management realise that experience and knowledge can't be bought? The RAAF went through a mass exodus in the mid 1980's, lost lots of airframes including a 707.
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On the note of the CX pilot moving to Derby... Is there any truth to the rumour that 4 ex CX pilots left Cathay and not only moved to Karratha, but paid $1m each for the business, KFS..
If that's true, it doesn't say much for life in Cathay..
If that's true, it doesn't say much for life in Cathay..
It's true. Also, two highly experienced F/O's I used to fly with went to CareFlight/Flying Doc a year or two ago, good lads too.
Cathay has long gone down the gurgler as a worthwhile airline career, it's 15-20 years to Command, no more new base slots, a training bond...erm 'forgiveable loan', and a minimal housing package in one of the most expensive cities on the planet.
Many senior, experienced F/O's, such as those above, are tired of the aggressive management, the Hong Kong crowds and pollution, the slow career progression and no hope of a basing opportunity.
CX has more than its share of marginal performers in the C and T department, one bad day with one of these clowns and your career is seriously affected. Add to that the constant night flights and jet lag, layovers in Saudi. And the jets ain't so shiny any more because of the corrosive South China atmosphere. For some, a 'regional' or GA in the clean environment, wide open space and freedom of Oz doesn't sound that bad.
Cathay Pacific Airways to GA; who'd 'a' thunk it?
Cathay has long gone down the gurgler as a worthwhile airline career, it's 15-20 years to Command, no more new base slots, a training bond...erm 'forgiveable loan', and a minimal housing package in one of the most expensive cities on the planet.
Many senior, experienced F/O's, such as those above, are tired of the aggressive management, the Hong Kong crowds and pollution, the slow career progression and no hope of a basing opportunity.
CX has more than its share of marginal performers in the C and T department, one bad day with one of these clowns and your career is seriously affected. Add to that the constant night flights and jet lag, layovers in Saudi. And the jets ain't so shiny any more because of the corrosive South China atmosphere. For some, a 'regional' or GA in the clean environment, wide open space and freedom of Oz doesn't sound that bad.
Cathay Pacific Airways to GA; who'd 'a' thunk it?
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On the note of the CX pilot moving to Derby... Is there any truth to the rumour that 4 ex CX pilots left Cathay and not only moved to Karratha, but paid $1m each for the business, KFS..
If that's true, it doesn't say much for life in Cathay..
If that's true, it doesn't say much for life in Cathay..
For some, a 'regional' or GA in the clean environment, wide open space and freedom of Oz doesn't sound that bad.
I would rather live in Wagga and fly a Saab than live in Honkers or Dubai and fly anything. Except of course, if you wanted to make a living you would probably be better of driving a truck than flying that Saab in Wagga.
Word has it that a CX captain, former training captain on the 747 has left to go to RFDS Western Section on the PC-12 for life-style improvement. Derby. Go figure
There's more to the story ...
The CX Capt heading to the RFDS is a (relatively) junior Captain who was assigned across to the Airbus from the -400 a few years ago. He's been commuting to PER (with difficulty) while waiting for a basing (which isn't going to happen), hence the move. He's also been given grief with housing in HK, so no surprise he wants out.
His wife has recently qualified as a nurse/midwife and is going to join the RFDS too, so I'm told.
As for him getting used to night flying, he's well practiced at it. That's 90% of what we do on the Airbus. Single Pilot too, given the lack of experience most new joiners are arriving with.
Will miss flying with him. He's a good guy.
His wife has recently qualified as a nurse/midwife and is going to join the RFDS too, so I'm told.
As for him getting used to night flying, he's well practiced at it. That's 90% of what we do on the Airbus. Single Pilot too, given the lack of experience most new joiners are arriving with.
Will miss flying with him. He's a good guy.
Just depends on peoples priorities, some the only goal is the shiny jet, others realise that lifestyle and family life are far more important. Some have to attain the shiny jet to realise that though!
Good one those that leave and make the move, it's a tough one but there is no point being miserable in life, far too many people in life(and flying) are like that.
Good one those that leave and make the move, it's a tough one but there is no point being miserable in life, far too many people in life(and flying) are like that.
Puff- it also can be 'been there done that, proved to myself I can and made more $$$ in 10 years than I can make in 30 under the Australian taxation system! Can now afford to come home and relax for the next 15 years of my flying career.' Also, the experience of life as an expat cannot be overestimated- amongst many other positives (and yes there are negatives too), you learn just how naive and sheltered the Australian world view is-it really is an island at the end of the world (and what a sheltered workshop the Australian aviation industry is). Flipside is thats what makes it a great place to live and work-when you can afford too!
