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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 09:42
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Qantas have just invested a lot of cash in
full refurb and repaints the Boeing 717 cabins to that of
the new Boeing 737 cabins with an extra 10 seats.
First aircraft just online all 13 will be complete
Within 12 months
Almost a certainty they're getting rid of them then
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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 10:36
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Where about is this article on plane talking??
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It's in the story about the 787's to Perth.
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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 10:39
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Can't wait to piss on the tyres as well and I don't even work there!

Infact, Jarse and Smart Glasses will come over to bay 18 tomorrow and piss on the Q400 tyres anyway .

In all seriousness, fingers crossed for all mates at EAA and SSA.
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Well sounds to me like everybody is getting excited, I wouldn't be suprised if Qantas mainline just decide to move their surplus pilots into the front seat of these A319's.
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Dreamliner debut planned by Qatar for Perth next month | Plane Talking
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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 12:05
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so so sad (pathetic) to watch...
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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 13:41
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The plan makes perfect sense.........after all it is Qantas management at it's best.


Send B787's to Jetstar where no Boeing types exist.

Reduce pilot numbers on the 767's where there's plenty of Boeing widebody experience.

Send Airbus's to QFlink where no Jet or airbus has flown before.

These guys are absolutely brilliant.
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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 14:46
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It would seem new aircraft end up everywhere except QF mainline. Interesting way to run a full service airline.

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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 14:52
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As much as I hate to admit it, RU/16's post is one of the smartest I've read in a while (see page 2). The cheapest pilots will fly any new aeroplanes. If that happens to be you have fun but remember, reality bites.

We're all going to get f$&ked over - Mainline, JQ or QFLink - by management. It's merely a question of how long it takes and how it happens.

For those who suggest the QFLink guys shoudn't sell themselves short - it's a fait accompli. Single aisle jets are already in the EA. The pilots have NO OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE. They will be forced to accept the conditions in the EA or continue flying turboprops while DE pilots fly any new jets.

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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 20:03
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Some people need to have a pill and a lay down.

Look at the facts, sectors not crewed on the rosters, come the new year there will be a line out the door to Jstar and should Virgin start to pick up their hold file it will be more messy for commands than already is. MFO and group have just returned from Toronto having purchased a new 400 sim for Bris and he and the top 4 who now have been told to fly a few times a roster will return to Toronto in the new year to complete 400 endorsements (note not in Sydney). No current routes would support a jet against the economies of the current fleet (SYD - GLA excluded)

If jets are on the horizon the current management are not going to let current employees jump stright into the seat. There will be a long transition period most likely with current mainline employees on secondment so this could blow out to well past 2018 for current Qlink employees.
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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 20:47
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No current routes would support a jet against the economies of the current fleet.....
Therein is the rub. If the Link ends up with A319s they won't be for current routes. They'll be for routes where QF wants a premium presence at a lower cost.

The next thing that may happen is if the link gets A319s then A320s and A321s aren't will be the logical next step in the medium to long term. There's the replacement of the mainline 737 fleet in the long term at costs more than a 1/3 cheaper than current rates.
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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 21:51
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Hi Keg,

It's almost as if you have seen the management blueprint.

Renurpp,

I am not sure which part of QLink you are with, or if you are a part of it at all. However if you are unable to see what is going on, I feel you should be more concerned about your own state of mind rather than mine.
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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 21:54
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Since when did Ben Sandilands who is after all a journalist become such a trustworthy source. For all we know the rumour spread so far and wide that some mainline pilot told him apprehensively as he writes, so now it's gospel?
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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 22:22
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vigi-one, Qlink are already using jets on many routes and making a motza. 717's are flying BN-GLA, BN-ROK, BN-MKY. Fokker100s are doing BN-EML, and the list goes on.

As for sending mainline pilots to Qlink to fly the jets, why on earth would a QF captain/FO want to take a huge pay cut to fly a single aisle jet on regional routes? It may apeal to an SO, but i hardly think an SO would be up to the task. Regional flying in the front seat requires a bit more than making coffee for the skipper and radio calls above transition.
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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 22:54
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Hi Teggun,
I can see whats going on, I just can't read the future. (neither can you)
after 30 yrs of listening to people like you get all excited about what they perceive is about to happen in this industry, only to be severely disappointed i am amused. Some things don't change.

Your like a little kid who can see some one walking towards them with an ice cream, is the ice cream for you or one of the other little kids around you?

Getting all excited and writing posts on a BB won't make it any more definite. Dont wet your panties in anticipation, all the other kids will laugh at you!

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Old 23rd Nov 2012, 22:59
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Would not want to be leaving Qlink just yet that's for sure. Just incase.
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Old 24th Nov 2012, 00:59
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Good analogy except there is a flaw. There is only a rumor of somebody coming with an ice cream.
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Old 24th Nov 2012, 01:16
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Correct, and a major flaw.

I should have said one with something looks like an ice cream from a fair old distance.

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Old 24th Nov 2012, 01:20
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Good luck to Qlink drivers , there is many quietly hoping this comes of for you as a group you deserve a break .
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