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Anticipating the arrival of the Dreamliner, what can we speculate on who will crew them?
Hmmm, I can see the requirements now:
Wide Body Boeing experience required
Overseas Flying Experience required
Ex-Ansett time acceptable in lieu of the above
Failing finding enough from within Jetstar then Direct Entry Captains will be required as there are plenty of our mates that would like a job, :-)
Wide Body Boeing experience required
Overseas Flying Experience required
Ex-Ansett time acceptable in lieu of the above
Failing finding enough from within Jetstar then Direct Entry Captains will be required as there are plenty of our mates that would like a job, :-)
According to a recruitment person, it will not be based in OZ.
Most likely SIN and/or NZ.
Is it a coincidence that Elain cancelled 787 for the rat?
Surely a clear signal to the group that now all the new toys will go to quieter groups of girls and boys.
Most likely SIN and/or NZ.
Is it a coincidence that Elain cancelled 787 for the rat?
Surely a clear signal to the group that now all the new toys will go to quieter groups of girls and boys.
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Originally Posted by Maisk Rotum
Surely a clear signal to the group that now all the new toys will go to quieter groups of girls and boys.
Multiple contracts, jurisdictions and seniority systems. Taking your endorsement and experience outside the "Qantas Group Franchise System" is your greatest strength.
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B777 and B787 are a common type rating now. I would expect that there will be pilots jumping ship from...somewhere.
TWE, I hav argued for a long time that seniority systems actually erode the T&Cs of our industry. To have portability in employment means that we are no longer permanently dependant on one employer for our careers.
TWE, I hav argued for a long time that seniority systems actually erode the T&Cs of our industry. To have portability in employment means that we are no longer permanently dependant on one employer for our careers.
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TWE, I hav argued for a long time that seniority systems actually erode the T&Cs of our industry. To have portability in employment means that we are no longer permanently dependant on one employer for our careers.
...... for Captains
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787 and 777 common type rating? Didn't they say that about 737ng and 777. The only thing in common between a 777 and a 787 is the manufacturer.
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Boeing advise the 777 and 787 are a common type rating.
"The 787 shares a common type rating with the larger 777 twinjet, allowing qualified pilots to operate both models, due to related design features."
It is a common rating, lets see if CASA sees it that way!! I doubt they will get EBA pilots to fly it, why would they 
They convinced a load of Australian based pilots to go to SIN just to get the chance to fly the A330, then announced no aircraft would be based there so ended up establishing a cheap crew base outside of OZ with a load of pilots who have tried to short cut their promotions.
If they can do that for the 330 I can assure you all our complaining pilot brothers and sisters will scratch each others eyes out to take a crap contract in some 'other' country for the chance to fly the new machine. Only OZ based chaps will be all ex-ansett mates who want to return to OZ and have to be employed due to their check and training experience.
They convinced a load of Australian based pilots to go to SIN just to get the chance to fly the A330, then announced no aircraft would be based there so ended up establishing a cheap crew base outside of OZ with a load of pilots who have tried to short cut their promotions.
If they can do that for the 330 I can assure you all our complaining pilot brothers and sisters will scratch each others eyes out to take a crap contract in some 'other' country for the chance to fly the new machine. Only OZ based chaps will be all ex-ansett mates who want to return to OZ and have to be employed due to their check and training experience.
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That may be true elsewhere, but I think Australia is the exception to the rule. A huge number of cashed up expat pilots (predominantly due to '89) are willing to accept less than market rates to return to Australia, simply because they can! And I don't for a second think less of anyone because of that, living in Australia is priceless to a lot of people.
A solid seniority system means that these pilots would have to join at the bottom (i.e. S/O or F/O) and therefore makes the move home less appealing. The fact they can't just come home for a DEC position on F/O wages means everyone wins in the end.
TWE, I hav argued for a long time that seniority systems actually erode the T&Cs of our industry. To have portability in employment means that we are no longer permanently dependant on one employer for our careers.
A solid seniority system means that these pilots would have to join at the bottom (i.e. S/O or F/O) and therefore makes the move home less appealing. The fact they can't just come home for a DEC position on F/O wages means everyone wins in the end.
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I'm not sure you can trust the outlets that claim cross qualification between the 777 and 787. Maybe that was Boeing's original intent!
This is from the Boeing website:
The 787 Dreamliner features a state-of-the-art flight deck that balances commonality with the latest enhancements. New technologies are integrated while still maintaining a significant amount of commonality with other Boeing airplanes, particularly the 777.
Familiar Boeing controls, displays and procedures all support shorter transition periods to the 787 from other Boeing family members, enabling efficient Mixed Fleet Flying.
This is from the Boeing website:
The 787 Dreamliner features a state-of-the-art flight deck that balances commonality with the latest enhancements. New technologies are integrated while still maintaining a significant amount of commonality with other Boeing airplanes, particularly the 777.
Familiar Boeing controls, displays and procedures all support shorter transition periods to the 787 from other Boeing family members, enabling efficient Mixed Fleet Flying.