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Old 11th Jul 2012, 00:44
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CX A340, YPPD.

A CX A340 spotted on the ground in Pt. Hedland a few minutes ago (11th/0035z). Anyone know why? Gina's migrant workers????

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Fog!

Foggy morning in Perth.

Thick fog hits Perth Airport, disrupting international and domestic flights | Perth Now

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CX expanding now to regional Australia! Darwin could work say at 2 A330s per week?
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Again Australian airports need to catch up with the rest of the world and get CAT III installed. With only one CAT III ILS in the whole country, it is just pathetic!
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CATIII or not, you still need to carry an alternate. They are few and far between!
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Wow, and without ATC or an ILS!!!!

Be very tight on the apron once the 717's arrive - and more than cosy in the terminal if the pax disembarked.

What was wrong with Learmonth, fog also?

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Yep, fog in yplm too.
Qf from hong kong to perth diverted to
Lucky kalgoorlie was ok for some domestic diversions, otherwise......
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Yep, fog in yplm too.
Qf from hong kong to perth diverted to Ybas
Lucky kalgoorlie was ok for some domestic diversions, otherwise......
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CX 137 sched to dept YPPD at 0300 Z to YPPH.
New crew paxed in from YPPH.
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When fog rolls in over WA, does Rotnest Island cop it as well?

Curious, for a 737-800, what would be the shortest runway you would try to land on if you had to, would Rotnest at 1200m be acceptable, pavement considerations aside.
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It's a while since I flew a 737 but if you had to I'm sure you could stop it in 3 to 4000' quite easily at light weights.

You could stop the A330 in 4000' if you really tried hard.

Better to go off the end of a prepared surface at 50 knots than ditch or force land in a paddock!!
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Or better still divert to your Alternate (that has ample rwy length), re-gas and continue to your destination later.

What do some of you smoke?

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He has certainly never heard of Cat3b...

Perth Airport Chief Executive Officer Brad Geatches said the fog visibility was down to about 300m when the sun rose around 7am.

He said numerous flights had been disrupted but there was nothing the airport could do about it until the fog lifted.

"It doesn't matter what sort of airport infrastructure you have when visibility is down to 300 metres nothing happens,'' Mr Geatches said.

Mr Geatches said when the flog lifts things "will get back to normal fairly quickly'' but it could take three to four hours to clear backlogged flights.
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Old 11th Jul 2012, 06:47
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Idiot obviously hasn't heard of CAT 3B which could allow ops in RVR's down to 100m if they bothered to install it.

No excuse, the "infrastructure" IS available mate.

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"It doesn't matter what sort of airport infrastructure you have when visibility is down to 300 metres nothing happens,'' Mr Geatches said.
Bull****! CAT III B will get you in with an RVR of between 200m and 50m.

YPPH,YMML and YSSY should all be equipped with CAT III ILS - end of story!

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Perth of all places should have it........no excuses I'm afraid.
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AND SYD.......
Was it mon' or tues' morning? Northerly drift bringing fog over the airport and numerous missed approaches because of the rediculous 1500m vis required due to the lack of HIAL.
Any reasonable International airport would have pilons built in to the Bay with HIAL installed or better still CAT3b capability.
But no, not SYD... ALL THE REVENUE IS BEING USED TO "IMPROVE" THE SHOPPING MALLS IN THE TERMINALS and BUILD MULTI-STOREY CARPARKS AND OFFICE BLOCKS!!

Role on....
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I agree SYD should too but at least you can divert to other major Airports within about 1 hour but Perth is so isolated it should have it.
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When fog rolls in over WA, does Rotnest Island cop it as well?

Curious, for a 737-800, what would be the shortest runway you would try to land on if you had to, would Rotnest at 1200m be acceptable, pavement considerations aside.
I thought this was a Professional Pilots site? Stick to the galley NMC!

PS: Rather than buns at Rotto for morning tea, I'd take my chances on an autoland at YPPH.
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Old 11th Jul 2012, 07:34
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Cathay Pacific Airbuses can go down to 'NO' DH and 75 m RVR. As I stated on another thread, we can even do this in Delhi, India...

But not Perth.

Imagine all the 'carbons' pumped out out by all these diversions.

The facilities at Australian airports that are not shopping malls or car parks are a goddam disgrace.

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